Hello, I've been using a different approach to program in a launch preset using my JR 8103 for Discus launching. I use the 'throttle' stick and have the rudder deflect near 75% of the throw when the stick is in the top position. Pulling the stick back will 'proportionally' decrease the rudder deflection until it is neutral at the bottom. My left thumb is on the stick during launch, and I can just pull it back once the plane straightens out because my thumb is ever present on the transmitter during launch. This allows you to change the amount of 'preset' really quickly for a launch. When it's windy and you want more deflection for a launch, the throttle is at full for the launch. In light conditions, you can start out with the throttle at 75% or 50% all without having to reprogram. Makes it easy to 'fine tune' in your Discus launch technique for even higher launches! Jeff Winder Cincinnati, OH RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]