just want to thank everyone for the numerous responses to my question. the snag problem was corrected on the line was more tightly wrapped on the retriever. -- Gregory Ciurpita Lucent Technologies - Bell Laboratories Room 1E-434A, Crawfords Corner Road, Holmdel NJ 07733-3030 732-949-5771, fax 732-949-0272, [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]