I myself am running a counterbalanced rudder on my Paragon as per the rules
(my first Paragon had it eliminated, non-legal) and I can tell you it is a
pain in the backside, but that is the way the rules are written. It's a pain
because it flutters on launch and breaks a lot but I have just outlined the
structure in CF to see if that helps. Not much you can do with sticks on an
open bay structure so I launch a little less severe.
BTW, I will be sending out an announcement for rules change proposals next
month if you feel strongly, add this to the list to be voted on. I for one
would not like to see a lot of little exceptions, like this, to the rules as
that defeats the original intent of the rules (AKA. It's a nostalgia plane,
except....). They are really easy to enforce now and if you CD something
like the NATS like I do, it really helps to have really simple rules. I am
still getting static from the purist for allowing spoilers to be added on
planes that did not have them.
It is still a voting process and we would see how things go in that stage to
be held the first quarter of 2002.
Jack Iafret
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"Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Gellart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Jack Iafret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Counterbalanced rudders on Nostalgia planes
> Dave
> I do not think people are sayingh there is great difference between the
> two. But in most cases you can only do so much structurally to one of
these
> ships internally to make it stronger, and the reason that is allowed is
> because launch equipment now is not what it was in 1975 when I went to my
> first contest. Lets face it, weight is a major issue here, and second,
most
> guys are flying ships built a while back, my Grand was built in about '85.
>
> And to the later part of who says, Jack iafret does and he is the guy that
> got off his duff, wrote us some rules, and has been steadfast in
supporting
> this event. To me it is an elegant event, I love flying it because I like
> my plane, they are fun and relaxing, and I do not feel that I am out
> launched by anybody in Nos contests because none of them are that strong.
I
> will fly it against the RES guys too, just like the ship. Should I say
that
> it has a gyro in it too?
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:10 AM
> To: RCSE
> Subject: [RCSE] Counterbalanced rudders on Nostalgia planes
>
>
> There has been some input on the list regarding counterbalanced rudders on
> planes like the Oly II, Aquila, Viking, etc. Even some knowledgeable
> Level V LSFers have jumped into the fray, stating that the planes should
be
> built according to plans. Who says?
> IMHO, there is a great difference between sheeting the upper leading edge
> of an Oly II and eliminating the counterbalance on the rudder. The former
> example is a change of the airfoil, almost like putting a 3021 on an Oly,
> while the latter is perhaps more obvious, but only involves the turning
> response.
> Many years ago, I had a conversation with a great flyer who worked for
the
> late Lee Renaud and now builds and flies models for movies and TV. He
> related his opinion that Mr. Renaud liked to put counterbalanced rudders
on
> everything he built, even if they detracted from the overall design and
> efficiency. This is not meant in any way to detract from the many
> accomplishments of Mr. Renaud, but is just an observation.
> So, I would submit to you esteemed readers, if the overall shape of the
> rudder side view is unchanged, how could this be less legal than carbon
> reinforcement, larger spars and wing rods used by many in Nostalgia class
to
> outlaunch their fellow competitors? You guys be the judges.
> Dave Darling
>
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