Here's what Mark Drela had to say about the movement of the neutral point with changes in pitch attitude:
" I find the Cm curve is more typically S-shaped, with a positive slope at small and large Cl's, and a larger negative slope at intermediate Cl's. -Cm ^ | | .. . | . . .| . . | .. | ----+----------------> alpha | The nonzero slopes of the curve cause the stability margin to vary considerably with Cl, or equivalently, the aerodynamic center to shift with Cl. The shift in the AC, as a fraction of chord, is delta( x_AC / chord ) = (-dCm/dAlpha) / (dCl/dAlpha) At small and large Cl's the shift is forward (destabilizing), while at intermediate Cl's the shift is rearward (stabilizing). The positive and negative slopes of the curve increase as Re decreases, as Ollie mentioned. On small gliders the more troublesome forward AC shifts are 10% of the chord or more. On large gliders, shifts of less than 5% are more typical. These predicted shifts closely match the differences I observe between the AC position as computed by theory, and the AC position observed by incrementally moving the CG backwards on the glider until instability is reached. "Theory" here refers to the vortex-lattice method, with correction to account for the nonlinear Cm curve. So it is possible to pick a stability margin and very closely nail the correct CG location and decalage before the first flight, but this requires doing the vortex lattice and Xfoil polar calculations. The AC shifting has practical implications to the more casual RC glider pilot. A glider which is stable in cruise (stable intermediate-Cl region), can become unstable and tuck into a dive if the speed is increased until the positive-slope left part of the Cm curve is entered Having the CG below the wing, like on a poly glider, also contributes to the tuck-in behavior, as does a flexible wing and/or tailboom. In any case, one needs sufficient stability margin to overpower the combined destabilizing effects of the nonlinear Cm curve, poly/dihedral, and elasticity. The "dive test" is useful in that it represents the worst-case situation where all these destabilizing effects gang up, and hence it reveals the farthest-forward AC position that the glider will ever see. The existence of the "stable" middle part of the curve can be demonstrated with a small flat plank of balsa with ballast on the leading edge. This plank can be made to glide slowly at moderate Cl even though it has no reflex camber (not possible with a flat Cm curve). Free-flight HLG's and some paper airplanes make use of this phenomenon. A FFHLG has nearly zero decalage to allow a high non-looping launch. If there was no stabilizing Cm curve, such a glider would not be able to glide slowly after launch. >What is the cause? The culprit is the variation of the boundary layer thickness and the movement of the separation bubble with Cl. The boundary layer and bubble changes the effective camber shape of the airfoil, which then causes the Cm to change. The effective shape of the airfoil is plotted in Xfoil under the Cp vs x/c plot. As you increase the Reynolds number the boundary layer and the bubble get thinner, so the modifications to the camber line get smaller. Hence the Cm variations get smaller as well. - Mark" My take is that it is unrealistic to assume that stability depends only on the CG location and that criticism of the dive test is based directl or indirectly on the assumption of constant stability. Once hte concept of stability varying with airspeed is accepted the dive test can be judged in the proper context. Regards, Ollie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]