Hi Ray, Some good points you bring up. Clubs puting on contests should warn the entrants about where to fly or not to fly. Eg. across freeways or busy streets, busy parks with lots of people there. Common sense should dictate this but some people don't think about these things. The landings shouldn't be over these same areas as you are coming in lower and any problems could put you down where you don't want to be. Land down wind or cross wind if you must do so to be safe. Regards, Art
Ray Hayes. Web Site http://www.skybench.com wrote: > I wonder if the AMA members have thought about criminal action being > brought on the rc pilot and activity sponsor (CD, and club members) that put > on an event that requires the sailplanes to fly adjacent to a very busy > street inside the city limits and the landing tape set up that > requires/allows the pilots to fly over the street, if the pilot would injure > or kill someone in a passing car ? > > The event could be caused by pilot error, interference at the worst time > possibly from another participating pilot, park flyers, or wind/flying > conditions. I see little legal defense for these people and AMA or personal > liability insurance is not a factor that will keep us out of jail or worse. > > Is this a valid concern for all ? Anyone have an opinion or knowledge of > this scenario ? > > The issue of park flyers is real and Simon is right, it is only a matter of > time until rc activity hits the press and in my opinion, the courts. > > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Van Leeuwen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 11:41 PM > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Shot down personally > > > From the RX's point of view, it will always respond to the strongest > > (dB-wise) on-channel signal, it's that simple. This presents a very real > > threat to any aircraft, park flyer, moldie, 40-50% aerobat, or > > otherwise. > > Unfortunately, it is only a matter of time before an aircraft flying at > > a sanctioned location causes public damage or injury, or a death. At > > this point, our hobby/sport will come under public scrutiny. What will > > be the end result if your AMA's or our MAAC's insurance carriers realize > > that ultimately those who fly at sanctioned flying sites have zero > > control over off-site frequency conflicts? What if some neophyte flying > > his park flyer decides to litigate because of a sustained injury when > > their park flyer nails them as a result of frequency interference from > > the local flying field? > > I think it is very wrong and irresponsible to market and sell park > > flyer-type aircraft with TX's that operate on the alotted frequencies, > > especially at the same O/P power. Although educating those who wish to > > purchase park flyer equipment about the necessity of frequency control, > > it is rarely driven home. The hobby shop should be doing this, but the > > actual sale takes precedence. I doubt it is even mentioned, let alone > > made abundandly clear. > > The majority of those who would buy these extremely convenient forms of > > entertainment would think twice about random operation outside of a > > sanctioned flying site "if" they could be found liable. However, this is > > the furthest thought from their minds, because pointing it out would > > deter the sale in the first place! > > The problem of off-site interference is not new. What is new is the > > profuse availability of ready-made radio control aircraft that are > > operating "on" the allotted frequencies, that can be easily flown by > > neophytes where ever the hell they choose. > > I hope I am wrong about this, but after attempting to (with diplomacy) > > point out to a father-son team who were flying a park flyer well within > > range of a local flying field and being told to "butt out - it's none of > > my business", this problem is not going to get better. > > I power up my LLM model aircraft frequency scanner every time I fly, but > > this will only save the day "before" I fly, not during. > > > > > > > > "Ray Hayes. Web Site http://www.skybench.com"; wrote: > > > > > > I would like to open up (maybe it has already been opened) a subject > that I > > > was made aware of 25 years ago. While flying with a buddy at a local > high > > > school, you already know this invites folks who have never heard of an > AMA > > > membership even though they bought their stuff from the local hobby shop > or > > > mail order, my buddy was flying his power plane and said to me "watch > this, > > > see that kid getting ready to take off, he is on my frequency. The > > > observation I made was: the kid had complete control until my buddies TX > was > > > closer than the kid's to the kid's RX in his plane. The pilots were 100 > feet > > > apart, my buddy was up wind, so the kid flew into our area on take off. > My > > > buddy's TX was in-between the kid and the plane my buddy was flying and > had > > > no control problems. > > > > > > I have seen this on a few other occasions and so the question is, has > anyone > > > else seen this happen and does this make the interference issue two > fold, > > > one, interference from the immediate area such as impound and/or > adjacent > > > pilots and two, when your plane is flying off field and becomes subject > to > > > backyard rc flying on 72 mhz. > > > > > > I haven't been following the interference thread at V closely, so I'm > sorry > > > if this has already been discussed. > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Simon Van Leeuwen, Calgary, Alberta > > RADIUS SYSTEMS > > Cogito-Ergo-Zoom > > IAC25233*MAAC12835*IMAC1756*LSF5953*IMAA20209 > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. 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