Ryan,

You have not flown much HLG if you are thinking full flying stab.
Especially in Reno.

Large stabs are good in some respects.  Mine are quite large as are my
rudders.  They are also much thicker than you can imagine also.  there are
reason for this.

However they are quite light.  My bagged foam ,thick , 0.75 oz cloth with CF
reinforced rudders, come in at 11 grams as do my very large stabs.  they can
be made to weigh less, or more depending on the epoxy layup, but most of the
weight is in the foam  not the epoxy.  None have folded on launch.

Except for those people who like to fly uncuopled rudder-ailerons, most are
coupled in some fashion.  Many also put exponential in each surface as well
as differential, depending on flying style.

Flying stabs might be great for tweeking the decalage, but I do not like
them becasue they stall at the slow speeds, and stall recovery is not good.
While flutter may have to be taken into account, there is also the weigh
penalty of the stb controls.

Chris



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Flowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Diherdral VS Poly VS Ailerons


> Forgive me for the lack of knowledge I have on this subject....
>
> But what about using somewhat oversized stabilizers in a cruciform setup,
> and make the stabs all flying, and run them as elevons?  Make the aileron
be
> more mixed in so that you get more travel out of aileron.  Then, use a
> rudder too and mix that in when desired.  Use whichever planform wing that
> suits you, and you'd never have to modify the airfoil by using ailerons.
>
> Is this too far out of whack?  Could such a light ship take the twisting
> forces in the boom?
>
> Again, forgive my naive outlook ;-) Sure would make for a clean wing, and
a
> versatile ship I'd think.
> ___________
> Ryan Flowers
> www.ryanflowers.com
> www.cruiserpages.com
> Reno, NV
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:27 AM
> Subject: [RCSE] Diherdral VS Poly VS Ailerons
>
>
> > I have to take exception to Chris Adams comments about airfoils in a
turn
> (with
> > respect to Poly VS Ailerons) In a cranked over turn the wingtip areas of
a
> wing
> > are traveling faster and slower than their optimal speeds. The outboard
> tip is
> > traveling at a faster rate than the optimal design speed, and of course
> the
> > inboard tip is doing the opposite. Which one is better?, beats me, maybe
> > somebody should design  HLG with slightly different airfoils on each
side
> so
> > that you could take advantage of the differing airfoils in say a Left
> turn. Of
> > course in the world of HLG's warped wings are a common problem, and I
have
> had
> > a couple myself.
> >
> > Jim Bonk
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