John,
I am NOT going to bust the efforts or time spent by the CVRC group in
putting on Visalia's event. I think the event itself is AWESOME. I
attended for 2 or 3 years (can't remember exactly) which for someone that
lives on the opposite side of the country is not an easy feat. Lots of
California folks that attend should be honored/proud/etc that they have such
a great event close by! Trust me...a $400+ round trip ticket, +$150 for a
model box, +$100 or so for a car, and a couple hr drive from San Jose or LA,
is not something to sneeze about. Why did I do it? Because I met some
GREAT people (Bill Malvey included...even though I may disagree with him!).
BUT...I went there because Visalia is a great EVENT, not a great
contest. 3 minute flight task? Think HL, not thermal duration.
Sorry...that right there defines landing contest to me. Does everyone make
their time? NO. But then again, do these same people make their time at a
normal contest? Do a lot of them come for the event or the contest? I came
for the event.
They put on a great event. Lots of fun. Hard landing task. But the
flight timesare generally jokes or easy at worst. I think they had a 7 min
flight one day and a 8 the next. In normal California air (sorry
guys...come fly out east to get a good perspective) you can launch and with
50-100 planes marking lift fly easially into your time. Yes...sometimes it
is harder...but even then you only have 2 out of 7 flights that are
difficult. End result...the scores are decided 100% by landings.
Jason Werner
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jason Werner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Soaring List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 12:59 PM
Subject: Visalia
> Jason,
>
> I'm getting tired of hearing that soaring tasks are a joke, and that the
> landing task is 100%. You mention Visalia. Did you look carefully at the
> results? Scoring was a point a second. Landings were 10, 15 and 25
points
> for a bulls eye. That means perfect landings would net you 175 points.
> There were 7 tasks that totaled 38 minutes of flying time, or 2,280
points.
> If you made all your time without any landings you would have been in 58th
> place, out of 214 participants.
>
> This means almost 3/4 of the field did not make their time. I don't think
> these guys think the soaring tasks are "a joke".
>
> Landings were worth about 7% of the total score, not 100%. What do you
mean
> not a good example of a soaring contest in the USA? Visalia embodies what
a
> USA soaring contest is all about!
>
> JE
> --
> Erickson Architects
> John R. Erickson, AIA
>
>
> > From: "Jason Werner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:44:50 -0500
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [RCSE] The meaning of Skeg
> >
>
> > Of course they don't have tasks like Visalia either, nor will they
ever.
> > Visalia is a landing contest, and in my opinion, while it is a great
> > contest, it is not a good example of a soaring contest in the USA. The
> > soaring tasks in general are a joke...the contest is a landing task
100%.
> > And the task is strict/small because with 300 people you need something
to
> > break up the scores.
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