<<I don't think you've shown any evidence that excess vacuum causes  surface
defects. You should at least have a theory as to how that  happens.>>
 
The idea was that the lower compression strength foam has a higher  
displacement response. While testing the foam, it's very obvious that the  
compressive 
displacement is a continuous (and apparently non-linear) function of  applied 
weight. So as more pressure is exerted on the more compressible foam, it  
should displace inward more than the lower compliance foam. At some point, the  
path length around the core surface shrinks enough (while the skin does not)  
that the skin should buckle inward somewhat, perhaps leaving indentations.
 
At least for the most recent samples, that was not a significant  response.
 
<<If you mean a longer cure time for the wax then I can tell you that  that is
not an issue.>>
 
No, I meant for the epoxy. I'm waiting ~ 24 hours before opening the  bag. 
Until recently, the basement ran ~ 80F but the temperature is dropping  slowly 
so, in the absence of a heater, I should probably leave them bagged ~ 48  hours 
and then check the release quality. Or get a heater. The comments on the  
ease with which the mylars should come off is very helpful. That's about the 
way  
the Turtle Wax is working but it is a soft wax and leaves a residue.
 
<<At what point does the carbon become fuzzed up?>>
 
While rolling it out on the beds. It's a uni sheet with cross stitches. I'm  
changing to uniweb and the fabrics you recommended in a recent post - thank 
you  very much for that summary,
 
I pick up a few loose hairs on the roller and wind up dropping them nearby.  
It's not very much but black shows up real well against a pink background. 
This  is purely a technique thing but as these wings get closer to emerging 
from 
the  bowels of the workshop, appearance starts to be an issue. I'll work on  
that.
 
***
 
Guys, every time you view Phil's video, you learn something new. The DVD  
format is great for going over a particular step in detail. After adding up the 
 
templates and leftovers in the shop, I've probably bagged over 100 wings over  
the past 7 years - mostly HLG/DLG for myself. So when this latest problem 
showed  up, it was a real surprise. Both the videos and the comments here have 
been very  helpful - in some cases for identifying what is not the problem.
 
I still suspect pressure may be a variable for this light foam and layup.  
However, if I had to blame one thing, the most likely culprit is handling the  
cores while peeling the mylars. If you have to slide your finger under the 
mylar  to get it off, you may have a problem. If you have to tug real hard to 
pull 
it  off, you may get a small delam somewhere (at least for this very light 
layup).  Experience seems to suggest the 25psi foam is a bit more robust than 
the 15. 
 
Although there's been a hiatus from bagging for ~ 2 yrs, my notes from  
earlier indicate Foamular 250 with CSTs Partall (Green) never had this problem. 
 
Cheap is never obsolete - but it can be costly in the long run.
 
Thanks for all the input,
 
- Dave R
 
PS - In the previous post I mentioned ACS as a supplier - sorry, that  should 
be ACP (as in Phil's note). 
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