Soon to drop the "Keeper" title, the event will be total AMA as of 01JA05.
This thread is just a little too competitive, Nostalgia is not about the "BEST" plane but the plane "you liked best" then trying to get the "Best" out of it using todays launch systems.
So far at the NAT'S the diversity has been great and there has not been a "BEST" plane (really hope there never is), only the best plane for the conditions which have been quite varied over the years. TK winning one year with an OLY in 20 mph winds said a lot for pilot and not much for the plane.
I flew to real mediocrity this last year in a new Maestro MKIII but enjoyed seeing the best of Dodgeson in the air again. After the next 20 post-Nats flights, I think Bob really did a nice job of being ahead of the design curve, you really must fly this beast to make it work light air and turn without tip stalling but it can be done.
So "Paragons forever" and may the "Maestro" be a challange and continue to be fun.
Jack
Jack Iafret "Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules"
From: "Ray Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bill Malvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Handicapping for contests Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 05:51:24 -0500
Here in the Ohio, MI, IN area, many of the monthly and sanctioned contests have two skill levels, Expert and novice ( or any name you want to apply to this group). Usually it is broken down by LSF level three or four as the divider and /or with contest wins record of each individual. This seems to work well for bringing out the newer guys, they fight it out amongst themselves and love it. OVSS is a good example.
It is a little bit like guys asking what is the best Nostalgia plane. The vendors come out and say their stuff is the best, guys that haven't flown other NOS designs will say the one they fly is the best and by the time the thread wears out, the same old conclusion is reached, it is the pilot that wins contests.
If you look at the win record of Jack Iafret's Nos AMA/LSF Nats contest, the
type of plane that places first thru third in the event is all over the
spectrum of old designs. From OLY ll (flat bottom airfoil), Challenger
(Clark Y airfoil w/flaps), Grand Esprit (flat bottom airfoil), can't
remember the others. So it remains in all types of contests, it is the
skilled pilot most times that wins, the two skill level approach is very
well received by both groups and adds a little motivation to the skilled
pilots to help the novice group.
Ray Hayes http://www.skybench.com Home of Wood Crafters ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Malvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Handicapping for contests
> On 12/19/04 18:37 Daryl Perkins wrote:
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> > Once you find out that doesn't work, and the same guys
> > keep winning.... In golf they handicap the players...
> > not their clubs of choice....
>
>
> Damn. My handicap is that I think I can play golf!!
>
> But your point is correct. Personally Like the heads up style in TD
> contests. The fact is that most guys simply don't like competition (less
> than 8% of AMA members enter any kind of sanctioned contest in a given
> year), so doing stuff to make them happy only dilutes it for those that do
> like it.
>
> I fly the best stuff and I still get beaten by the better pilot,
regardless
> of what they are flying. Ask the guys at the Rose Bowl a few years ago in
2M
> how they felt about JW kicking their butts with a 2-channel foamie!!
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Bill Malvey
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