It is very early am, I can't go to the OVSS in Cinci, so I'll take my frustration out by beating the dead Nostalgia horse. My apologies to everyone.
Having an AMA Nostalgia class is good, accept it or not, most entry level into RC Soaring ( non electric) is with a woody, ARF or home built. I don't classify an AVA, etc. as a woody ( beat on that one for a while) because it has a molded wing section. The current NOS rules need to be amended through the AMA process of rules changing ( won't this bring out the know it alls), but NOS will be in trouble because there will be some really goofy rules changes proposed, mostly by people that have no experience of building and flying back in the days of nostalgia and likely no experience flying in a current NOS contest. I truly hope the AMA Nos Nats will grow, so far it hasn't and for several obvious reasons. One of the reasons is the rules are not right and do not reflect what really was going on in the good old days when the SOAR NATS attracted so many more contestants then what we see at the NATS currently. A good example is, it was fairly common practice to fully sheet or partially sheet the wings of a Windfree, Astro Jeff, and etc.. The irony of the rules administration at the NOS NATS is the planes are not checked for compliance, a process that would be impossible to undertake. Another problem at the NOS NATS is the tow lines (and winches) do not comply with the tow lines used during the days the so called NOS rules are trying to duplicate. 280 to 300 lb test tow lines used at the NOS NATS are not compatible with small NOS designs, so it didn't take long to realize the NOS planes to fly at the NATS ( if you were competing to win) were the larger designs and for the lack of size classes in the NOS NATS ( another mistake) it makes flying the larger designs almost mandatory. These conditions are not the best for attracting larger numbers of entrants. My Wood Crafters event was created to attract people who enjoy building and flying a woody, I think the AMA NOS event is developing a reputation for turning people off to NOS. I personally enjoy flying the AMA NOS event, but I have given up on flying my 23 oz Windfree there. Participate in the Rules changing process and hope for the best. Ray Hayes http://www.skybench.com Home of Wood Crafters ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CapnCrunchie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <soaring@airage.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] The NOS dead horse beating.......again > You think you got it bad. I am unable to fly my original design that I > used to win a first place trophy at the 1974 SOAR Nats because it was never > published other than in our club newsletter. The original model still > exists but is not flyable on modern high power winches. I did build a > replica with a beefed up wing a few years ago to see if if really flew as > well as I remembered. It didn't! I did take both the original and the > replica to the Nats one year and displayed both along with the 74 SOAR Nats > trophy and a sign reading "ILLEGAL NOSTALGIA MODEL" > > Chuck Anderson > > At 09:24 PM 5/20/2005, you wrote: > > >My guess is you have not read the rules because it clearly > >states the > >pilot is to provide documentation, no where does it referance a > >list.< > > > >C'mon lets face it, if one goes to a contest and his plane is on "the > >List", he wouldn't have to provide documentation, right? BTW, where is the > >Legionaire 132 on 'the list'? DUUUH! > > > >I have been digging and asking for ANY type of "documentation" so I > >wouldn't have to be concerned about being disqualified by the CD after > >driving 200+ miles to attend a NOS event with my MalCo Eagle. Thanks > >bunches for the info, Chuck Anderson. I see light in the tunnel..... > > > >Many of us are flying Vintage ships that have been bought at swap meets or > >from widows and have no source for the plans. Or the plans got wasted > >during construction! I am trying to find plans or a picture of the box for > >an Original(first edition) Windrifter 100 that shows the stab mounted on > >the fuse. I saw one once on eBay but didn't win the bid. Until then, I > >can't compete at an AMA NOS event with mine!!!! > > > >THAT, is why I like the way Ray Hayes and Jack Womack think. I also have a > >set of plans for a Legionaire provided to me by Jack Hamilton that shows > >how to use a fiberglass boom like the one on his '76 FAI ship. But > >according to AMA rules - 'taint legal! I understand the original intent of > >the rules, but they are too restrictive and more dificult to document than > >a Scale ship!! > > > >Blue skies, > >Capn Crunchie > > > > > >Yahoo! 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