Excellent post.  Regis
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug McLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 03:39:30PM -0700, Paul Emerson wrote:
>
> | ME: Hey what channel are you on?
> | PFG: I dunno
>
> Personally, the usual funny response I get is not `dunno', but `um,
> 27?'  (And it's always 27, because their box says 27 MHz.)
>
> Though really, most of the park flier people around Austin at the
> local parks seem to understand frequency control and even practice
it.
> Perhaps because we explain it to them when we go up and introduce
> ourselves and try to be friendly?
>
> | ME: Well you might be interfering with our club field across the
> | street, you don't want to shoot down one of those $2000 planes
do you?
> | PFG: Meh.
>
> I've gotten that response.  It's not typical, but I've gotten it.
>
> A better angle is to also point out that it would probably crash
their
> plane as well.
>
> I've also seen these discussions get somewhat hostile.  Telling
> somebody that they _can't_ fly in the city park near the AMA field
> tends to not go over well, especially when people start citing laws
> and rules that either don't exist (AMA club fields do not get
`special
> rights' to the R/C band) or don't apply (AMA rules don't apply to
> non-members.)
>
> And the last thing you want to do is piss somebody off -- they can
> cause trouble for your club (call in noise complaints for powered
> clubs, get the local parks department involved, etc.) or could
even go
> around deliberately interfering with the channels that are in use.
> I've not personally seen it happen (at least not where it could be
> proven), but I've heard of it ...
>
> | ME: Well you could join our club and enjoy frequency control and
the
> | shared knowledge of 100 fellow pilots.
>
> Around here, the powered plane club has very little to offer your
> typical park flier.  Sure, it's a nice field, but there's all
sorts of
> rules that the park flier doesn't like (sure, they're good rules,
but
> that's not the perception) and the other fliers really tend to look
> down on his `little toy plane'.  (If it's one of the < $150 jobs.
If
> it's a more expensive plane, with real gear, then people aren't so
> dismissive.)
>
> The local soaring club has a better attitude (since most of the
> members have a park flier or two), but still, they don't have that
> much to offer.  At least not for the price, at least not what the
park
> flier actually wants.
>
> | PFG: How much?
> | ME: Our club is only $20 a year, but of course you would have to
> | become an AMA member for $60 a year.
>
> You're certainly right about that -- it's quite a deal breaker.
Many
> clubs will even let the $20 slide ... but the $60 generally can't
be
> ignored.
>
> Nobody wants to pay $100/year just to fly their plane that they got
> for less than $100.  Especially to fly it with a bunch of people
that
> really aren't that nice (and I've heard this, over and over, from
> people that I've talked to with park fliers), at a field that's
even
> further than the local park, with all sorts of `silly' rules.
>
> (I could talk about `not being nice' to the park flier people at
some
> length, and I've even brought the issue up at meetings of the local
> powered club, but ultimately there's a very strong feeling of
> `entitlement' and `superiority' that tends to run people off very
> quickly.  But that's where I'll leave that issue for now.)
>
> Really, the only real solution to the frequency control problem
with
> park fliers is spread spectrum.  And it looks like the first
> installment (which isn't perfect, but it looks like a really good
> first shot) is due out in about a month, called the DX6.
>
> (It's not perfect because it's not sutiable for those $2000 planes,
> not yet, and you can't control the radio gear that the park fliers
> flying nearby will use.  But hopefully soon they'll come out with
the
> next version.)
>
> --
> Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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