There are quite a few tutorials on the wiki already [1]
These consist of narrated screenshots, and are receiving many hits.
2 of the *Windows Install tutorials were written during Google_Code-In_2012 [4]

I think this solution for duplicating multiple USB Sugar USB sticks (with persistence) [2][3] Is a workable solution.(I did this at Walter's request for a persistent sugar USB stick.)

Tom Gilliard
satellit


[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Tutorials
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Tutorials/Installation/How_to_make_a_SoaS.img_file_for_repeated_installs_to_4_GB_USB%27s
[3] Prebuilt .img files for 2 GB and 4 GB USB sticks:
 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Tutorials/Installation/How_to_make_a_SoaS.img_file_for_repeated_installs_to_4_GB_USB%27s#Alternative:_Download_a_prebuilt_USB.img
[4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Google_Code-In_2012/GCI2012_followup

On 02/03/2013 05:29 AM, Sean DALY wrote:
It's clear that anything other than pre-installed raises a barrier
most teachers don't want to deal with. However, getting Sugar
referenced with an OEM is far easier said than done. And Apple is not
particularly motivated to encourage others to boot non-Apple OSes on
their hardware.

In the meantime, we have to make the difficult as simple as possible.
This includes installers and documentation including videos.

I don't want to underestimate teachers' motivation to find software
for their students, either. I have found that Sugar's unbeatable price
and nonprofit orientation are consistently appreciated by teachers.

Sean


On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:06 PM, DancesWithCars <danceswithc...@gmail.com> wrote:
do you all think installing a VM is easier than
making a LiveCD, or SOAS and rebooting?

Most Macs these days are Intel,
it's the hardware compatibility to get something
to boot from BIOS, and other issues, AFAICT...

Of the kids and adults I've talked to, over the years
(realizing most people here have more experience)
they don't bother unless an XO-1.x or better is put
before them...  They fall in love with the hardware,
the cuteness factor, and if it's on a regular machine
(even the RPi I've tried a few on), it's a no go,
generally...

Not that it's not worth having, jhbuild, sweets, VMs, etc
are all good, but most non technical people won't
try it, AFAICT...

---
odd nonstandard keyboard so who knows what I intended to type...

On Feb 3, 2013 7:21 AM, "Thomas Gilliard" <satel...@bendbroadband.com>
wrote:
Sean;

I just did a cleanup of the wiki pages covering Virtual Box and Importable
appliances
  deleted a lot of obsolete information and their links [5]

I updated:
  Downloads [1] [2]; Fedora_18 [3]; and Sugar_on_a_Stick [4] wiki pages

Tom Gilliard
satellit on #sugar freenode IRC

[1]
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#Virtual_Machines_on_all_platforms
  Links to Virtual Box Appliances :
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/VirtualBox
  Links to Soas-v8:
[3]
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_18#Sugar_on_a_Stick_v8_.CA.BB.C5.8Chelo_.CA.BBai
[4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
  This page is still not updated, you have to scroll down to find SoaS-v8
[5] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges



On 02/02/2013 04:14 PM, Sean DALY wrote:
For the past couple of years, our homepage has linked the Sugar on a
Stick (SoaS) badge to the SoaS page [1] and the "download" menu item
and "Try it with a child today" link to the Downloads page [2].

The downloads page rightly in my view orients visitors by platform,
but the two largest market share desktop/laptop OSes (Windows & MacOS,
96% or so of market) only give instructions for Sugar on a Stick and
the "Do you use a virtual machine?" link misses the excellent VMs
available (in particular the VMs of... SoaS!).

I think teachers will self-classify by OS and virtually none of them
will self-classify as virtual machine users.

Teachers will also expect pancake button 1-click installers (this was
confirmed by Sloan Marketlab study), problematic with SoaS due to
necessary USB stick manipulation and still a bit hairy on a Mac.

I think Windows section and Mac section should both propose choice of
SoaS and using VirtualBox with a SoaS VM, explaining benefits of each
method in layman's terms.

VMs are far less disruptive for trying Sugar, as a teacher can
download to hard disk, install and run, keeping usual apps going
(mail, browser, word processing) while experiencing Sugar.

The downside is of course massive files to download, but that could be
mitigated with torrents and/or mirrors.

Comment please before we get into wiki editing of this crucial page
thanks

Sean


[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DocumentationTeam/Try_Sugar

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