CC fail, rectified. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Nancy Ouyang <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello, > Thank you for letting me know. I'll remove my proposal. > Thanks, > --Nancy > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Obey Arthur Liu <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Ana Guerrero <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> {*} [[SummerOfCode2011/JavaPackages]]: Java packages for Taverna >>> >>> The project does not have any public student proposal. It has a mentor. >>> The project seems to fail in the "package this category" mentioned in >>> this mail [0]. >>> >>> >>> {*} [[SummerOfCode2011/BOINC]]: Streamline the preparation of BOINC >>> projects >>> >>> The project has 2 students proposal in melange and 1 mentor commited >>> partially >>> to at least another 2 more project. >>> The discussion and comments in melange point that the purpose of the >>> project >>> and its deliverables are not clear. >>> >>> >>> {*} [[SummerOfCode2011/Wrapper]]: A wrapper aware of dependencies for >>> direct >>> remote execution >>> >>> The project has 1 students proposal in melange and 1 mentor and 1 >>> co-mentor. >>> The discussion and comments in melange point that the purpose of the >>> project and its deliverables are not clear. >>> >>> >>> {*} [[SummerOfCode2011/GeneticCloning]]: Genetic Cloning with Debian >>> The project has 2 students proposal in melange and 1 mentor commited >>> partially >>> to at least another 2 more project. >>> The discussion and comments in melange point that the purpose of the >>> project, >>> its deliverables and how the project benefits to Debian is not clear. >>> >>> >>> [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/03/msg00972.html >>> >>> >> As a long time admin for the Google Summer of Code at Debian, I feel that >> I need to chime in on the thorny issues with the projects quoted above. >> This might not be popular with everyone but they should be removed from >> the Google Summer of Code at Debian immediately. >> Let me explain why. >> >> - These projects do not further the technical objective of contributing to >> Debian as a primary concern. >> I feel that the technologies involved and contributions expected from and >> for Debian are secondary to the scientific aspects. Getting code written is >> the endeavor of the Summer of Code but the goal of the Summer of Code at >> Debian is to specifically contribute to Debian. This and only this is our >> mandate. >> >> - These projects are not targeting teams that span the enough core parts >> of Debian community. >> The GSoC at Debian has a very specific objectives of introducing students >> to broad-ranging parts of the Debian community with the objectives of >> teaching them what Debian is and giving them a rather unique opportunity to >> engage themselves as Debian Developers in the long run. >> >> - It should be clear that Debian as an organization is about creating an >> operating system distribution. Debian (the organization) is not a scientific >> organization. I feel that the core interests of most students applying for >> these projects would be much better served by applying at actual scientific >> organizations (of which there are many participating in GSoC) >> >> - In relation to the previous point, the realistic evaluation points that >> will be used for these projects (successfully running specific research >> experiments) are too removed and intangible for the Debian development >> community at large to satisfy our requirements for transparency, >> accountability and reusability. >> >> - Debian has no obligation to fulfill all the slots Google may give. It is >> in no one's interest to manage more projects than should be. Each project is >> an additional management burden that should be decided on on an individual >> basis, weighted with the expected outcomes. >> >> As a additional note, I should point out that the only reasons these >> projects have stayed up for so long is that they were mentor and >> DD-introduced. Similar projects submitted by students the previous years >> have been immediately notified of the various issues suggested above and >> forwarded to more relevant organizations. DDs should be held to the same >> standards. >> >> Lastly, I would like to apologize to the impacted students for being >> caught in this unfortunate situation, and encourage them to still seek a >> Summer of Code project, which is a wonderful experience. >> >> Regards, >> >> -Arthur >> > >
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