2010/3/27 Matt Lee <[email protected]>

> On 03/27/2010 09:08 AM, Carlo von Loesch wrote:
>
> > No Matt, I have to disagree with this impossible design goal.
> > If we stay in PHP playground land without a proper backend protocol
> > we will only be able to make yet another web-based social engine
> > without a scalable real-time link to the rest of the world.
>
> Please don't be disparaging to PHP.
>
> > A social network in a Facebook style generates events a go-go.
> > Each time a user adds a comment somewhere, each time a user likes
> > something, writes an update, joins a group or adds a friend.
> > Every time a notice needs to be distributed to all peers.
> > This is a one-to-many operation that hasn't got a ghost of a chance
> > of scaling if implemented as a round-robin series of HTTP calls.
>
> How many friends does the average Facebook user have? Even it's its
> 10,000 -- I can't see why if I publish a status update, 10,000 other
> servers couldn't access a URI, similar to an RSS feed, and get the info.
>

FYIL From facebook stats:

http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics

Average User Figures
*Average user has 130 friends on the site*
Average user sends 8 friend requests per month
Average user spends more than 55 minutes per day on Facebook
Average user clicks the Like button on 9 pieces of content each month
Average user writes 25 comments on Facebook content each month
Average user becomes a fan of 4 Pages each month
Average user is invited to 3 events per month
Average user is a member of 13 groups


>
> Even on the cheapest and nastiest of web hosting.
>
> > Is there some magic trick I am not familiar with that allows us to do
> > real protocols on persistent TCP connections on so-called "commodity
> > webhosting" or should we rather create such a profoundly important
> > technology that will influence "commodity webhosting" in such a way
> > that it will become common to support gnu social?
>
> We should focus on making something simple, which publishes its own
> updates in a way that other servers request them in a timely manner,
> rather than the individual server pushing them out.
>
> And we should do that in the lower common denominator possible -- PHP
> with a RDBMS.
>
> Only then will the average computer user be able to quickly set up or
> obtain/purchase GNU social service from a willing provider.
>
>

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