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chat'><body>dwd: @evan So, why's the XMPP API so repetitive,
verbose, and r
epetitive? Can we work out something better between XSF and OMB folk?
[30468192]
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<a title='Evan Prodromou' class='url'
href='http://identi.ca/user/1'><span clas
s='fn nickname'>evan</span></a></span> So, why's the XMPP API so
repetitive
, verbose, and repetitive? Can we work out something better between
XSF and OMB folk? <a
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<title>@evan So, why's the XMPP API so repetitive, verbose, and
repetitive
? Can we work out something better between XSF and OMB folk?</title>
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<content type='html'>@<span class="vcard"><a
href="http://identi.ca/user/1" class="url"
title="Evan Prodromou"><span class="fn
nickname">evan</span></a></span> So,
why's the XMPP API so repetitive, verbose, and repetitive? Can
we work out something better between XSF and OMB folk?</content>
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That's the traffic that identi.ca sent me for a "micro" blogging
entry, as an excerpt from my local server's telemetry log - so that's
4340 octets on the wire.
This seems fairly drastically wrong - we should surely be able to
work out something better with the expertise we have here.
Any obvious first steps? Lose the Atom? Make XHTML-IM optional? How
might we avoid forcing options on users? Disco for capabilities with
positive stickiness?
Dave.
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