William Ahern <[email protected]> writes:

> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:44:30AM -0700, Wesley PA4WDH wrote:
>>
>> The host will be Gentoo, i haven't decided about the guest yet. It seems a
>> bit overkill to use gentoo there too. The workload would be email with an
>> MTA, Secure IMAP, Webmail and maybe some spam filtering. The number of
>> emails would be somewhere in the 10s per day or so, so i guess that won't
>> be a problem. My main question would be if it's responsive enough to be
>> usable. Does anyone have any experience with virtualisation on an atom ?
>
> Excluding virtualization, it should be more than enough. I'm preparing a
> small mail and web server for hosting which will take on much more traffic
> than that. The only bottleneck I ran into was mutt loading my 200MB+ mbox
> files, but compared to an opteron it's only a few seconds longer. (It's
> actually mutt's pokey parsing; using my own custom mbox and MIME parser, I
> can load and parse the file as fast as the disk can send it--less than 2s.)
>
> FWIW, I'm using 2 20GB Intel SLC SSDs, one for /home and the other for /var.
>
> Throwing virtualization into the mix, though, gives me pause. Even with
> hardware vx instructions, virtual hosts still have a huge stack of software
> to go through for simple things like disk I/O, and these paths execute a
> lot. Like with mutt, there's not much overhead with the Atom to make up for
> suboptimal code paths. If you're worried about security, I'd use OpenBSD or
> Ubuntu (the former because unmaintained and unpatched it's still a hard
> target to break, and the latter because Debian Apt takes most of the burden
> out of maintenance.)

With xen and a pv guest, the virtualization overhead is low.  I have
measured about a 10% loss (not on a soekris) from raw disk in dom0 to
file in dom0, and also from file in dom0 to raw 'disk' in domU.  So
basically I concluded that disk IO suffers about 10% (with no activity
in dom0 or other domUs).

I have not tried xen on a 6501.

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