omfg I'm switching right now! So if I pour a glass of beer into the keyboard 
I'm gonna get a realtime Bifrost flooding sim :)

On 31/07/2013, at 21.14, Sebastien Sterling <sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> http://area.autodesk.com/mayaleapplugin
> 
> 
> Meanwile ! Yay ! Warning ! its like a sick parody of kinect for maya so not 
> for the faint hearted !, i wonder if any user money went into this, or if 
> some resourceful little dude just cooked it up by himself?
> 
> "Give your users the ability to imagine, design, and create in true 3D space."
> 
> 
> On 31 July 2013 17:23, Tim Crowson <tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:
> This thread is simultaneously awesome and horrendous. I need 
> anti-depressants....
> 
> -Tim
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/31/2013 3:27 AM, Jordi Bares wrote:
>> I meant "wherever the decision makers are now.." or course.
>> 
>> Jordi Bares
>> jordiba...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On 31 Jul 2013, at 09:24, Jordi Bares <jordiba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I could safely say that since the acquisition it has been a downhill 
>>> experience and I can only think on blaming AD management, whoever the 
>>> decision makers are now let's make sure we keep an eye on them as it is 
>>> very likely they will f*ck everything else they touch.
>>> 
>>> Strategic thinking only, nothing personal.
>>> 
>>> Jordi Bares
>>> jordiba...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On 31 Jul 2013, at 07:49, Raffaele Fragapane <raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Last time I heard a definite figure it was 12, later on I heard a 
>>>> not-as-reliable 14.
>>>> I'd say between 10-15 actual developers sounds like the realistic ballpark 
>>>> (without management etc).
>>>> 
>>>> Don't think Maya has hundreds though :)
>>>> 
>>>> I think currently one of the largest, if not the largest, permanently 
>>>> staffed (so exclude temp contractors and third parties) might actually be 
>>>> C4D's.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Szabolcs Matefy <szabol...@crytek.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Exactly how many developers Softimage really has?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> I doubt if Mudbox will be implemented in Maya, but who knows what AD is 
>>>> planning. It is sure the Softimage is not on their hot topic list.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
>>>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Greg Punchatz
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:23 AM
>>>> To: Softimage List
>>>> Subject: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my 
>>>> moneyback!
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  As I find out more and more about what is going on behind the scenes at 
>>>> at AD in regards to Softimage (plus all the others) the more and more 
>>>> angry I get.  And frankly the more I want my support money back, seriously.
>>>> 
>>>> This has been a huge bait and switch scam....  I feel like I have been 
>>>> consistently lied to about the future of Soft, there is even a video of a 
>>>> "product manager of the week"  telling me the future of Softimage is good 
>>>> on the Autodesk site.  Buyers remorse is one thing, but frankly no one has 
>>>> been honest with us about where all of this was headed, in fact I would 
>>>> say that I was deliberately lied to by the PR machine that is AD. The 
>>>> video of Daniel Tutino talking about the future of softimage is a prime 
>>>> example of AD misleading us. What's  sad if you watch the video, he is 
>>>> acting like a really bad liar .  ( I have the video downloaded just in 
>>>> case I need it to back up my case against AD.)
>>>> 
>>>>  First off I wish I would have NEVER bought a suite... I did not want a 
>>>> single dollar of mine going to support Maya, but apparently if you jumped 
>>>> on the suite bandwagon your money went toward a bazzilion Maya developers, 
>>>>  even if you checked "softimage is my main interest"  in the AD suite 
>>>> surveys.  I wanted a Softimage branded suite for that very reason.  Now 
>>>> from what I gather soft has less developers than my hand has fingers, and 
>>>> Maya has over a hundred??  WTF are all those developers working on, 
>>>> really? 100 devs working under the bad management of AD guys cant even 
>>>> compete with 15 devs working at an under funded Softimage run by Avid . 
>>>> 
>>>>  I am also hugely disappointed in Mudbox... The only thing I ended up 
>>>> using in the whole suite is SOFTIMAGE.. Zbrush and Mari got my personal 
>>>> dollars because they delivered while AD promised.  Now Luc Eric is all but 
>>>> saying Mudbox is going into Maya on Softimage forums.... Do the powers 
>>>> that be at AD still think putting everything into one app makes sense?? 
>>>> There is a reason why niche products do a better job at niche work :)
>>>> 
>>>> I would be happy with if AD made an attempt at a next gen app, I would 
>>>> give that a shot....but I passed on Maya for a reason.  
>>>> 
>>>> I paid my support so Softimage could be developed further....not so AD 
>>>> could put a nail in its coffin.
>>>> 
>>>> Feeling like I just got robbed... is there something we can do as a group 
>>>> to get our voices heard?  Anyone know any good lawyers that will work for 
>>>> next years support money ;)
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Greg Punchatz
>>>> 
>>>> Sr. Creative Director
>>>> Janimation
>>>> 214.823.7760
>>>> www.janimation.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it 
>>>> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>>> 
>> 
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