I was suggesting to also look into refurbished HP Z800/Z820/Z840 workstations
as a basis for building a multi-GPU plattform.

There is a grain of salt.

Most if not all graphics cards come expecting an additional 2x6pin power supply,
e.g. 75W from the PCIe slot, plus 75W from each 6pin connection, there are
Quadro cards that are spec´ed for 150W power consumption but most
gaming cards will excess that 150 W drain limit.

You´d need at least 4 6pin connections for 2 gaming cards.

The HP Z8++ series may present problems because of the way the PSU provides
these 6 pin connections in a vendor specific cable kit.

There are several cable kits available but I haven´t found a 4x6pin kit sofar.
This could be a dissapointment for anyone looking into get such a plattform.

Of course, there is a chance I missed something from the datasheets and spare parts
listings, as well as a chance the HPZ840 doesn´t have such a limitation.

Worth mentioning anyway.

Cheers,

tim
Am 12.12.2014 um 12:14 schrieb Angus Davidson:
Worthwhile noting that Octane works with the GTX 9XX cards very well. It also has a really good Network GPU support. Which means you dont need to cram 4 cards into one machine. If you dont know what you are doing the machine can go *Poof* very easily.




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*From:* Tim Leydecker [bauero...@gmx.de]
*Sent:* 12 December 2014 12:42 PM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Best graphic card for Softimage?

Hi,


I would also like to recommend a nvidia gtx 9xx card, the available cards
(970&980) have a lower power consumption compared to a 7xx series card.

Aside from that, I would like to point out nvidia CUDA support, which might help in a couple of programs, be it redshift or 3d coat or the latest nvidia games
related tools (fluids, cloth, physics, etc for Maya).

If you have to invest now, e.g. immediately, I´d suggest a 970 4GB card and
downloading a redshift demo to see if it would benefit your workflow.

If you can wait a bit longer, I´d suggest waiting for a successor to the 780ti or Titan (Black) nvidia cards, expected early next year, mostly because of the
more RAM expected to come with these cards, which would give you more
headroom for heavy scene handling (e.g. shitloads geometry and raytracing).

There is a lot of new stuff coming early next year, including Houdini and Nuke
versions more accessible due to licensing changes/options.

In general, I would split my money between system RAM, ssd and graphics unit, expecting to work happy with a 128-256GB system OS partition, 64GB ish RAM,
and a gt(x) 9xx ish card with at least 4GB VRAM (6-8GB prefered).

Making sure that your system has a 800+ Watts PSU will help stability.

>From there, finding redshift attractive, you could always add another card to your system, devoting it to getting more out of a single render license or even
go fully committed and swap your mainboard to a 4x16PCIe version, adding
even more cards.

This implies a tower workstation case and enjoying building your hardware.

Alternatively, I can recommend looking into refurbished HP Z800/820 or Dell T7500/7600 workstations (on ebay) to get an idea about prices, performance and extension options.

These plattforms are well enough documented to find a solid, not to loud machine that will reliable work 24/7 with a reasonably sized PSU and at least a 2x16PCIe
graphics option.

There´s caveats with maximum system RAM or the PSU in some of those refurbished machines
but they tend to be solid machines, well designed.

If all of the above is too much information for you:

Get a gt 970 card. They are the best bang for the buck nvidia´s atm.


Cheers,


tim















Am 12.12.2014 00:09, schrieb Tim Crowson:
I have a 970 for my home system and it's fantastic.

-Tim


On 12/11/2014 3:34 PM, David Rivera wrote:
GTX 9XX it´s the way to go, packed with another $600 on Redshift.
Thanks. :)
*David Rivera*
/3D Compositor/Animator/
LinkedIN <http://ec.linkedin.com/in/3dcinetv>
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VFX Reel <https://vimeo.com/70551635>

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*From:* Mirko Jankovic <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>
*To:* "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: Best graphic card for Softimage?

"How long can you can your computer on with this card in it?"

Sry but clarification please?

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:28 PM, <hk-v...@iscs-i.com <mailto:hk-v...@iscs-i.com>> wrote:

    How long can you can your computer on with this card in it?
    On 2014-12-11 05:36, Mario Reitbauer wrote:
    Got the msi gtx 970 gaming 4g.
    Quite happy with it.

    2014-12-11 10:03 GMT+01:00 Mirko Jankovic
    <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com <mailto:mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>>:

        right now 970 is best bang for backs.
        they do not heat too much, power consumption is prety low
        and they do really good job.
        and on top of that Redshift as perfect companion ;)
        viewport performance is not that big issue at all between
        two cards but being able to utilise GPU rendering with CUDA
        is way more higher on the list then couple more FPS in viewport

        On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Christoph Muetze
        <c...@glarestudios.de <mailto:c...@glarestudios.de>> wrote:

            I'd stay clear of the ATI/AMD consumer cards if I were
            you. From our
            experience Soft becomes generally less stable (crashing
            a lot more), and
            the raycast selection is going haywire sometimes.

            Chris

            On 11/12/14 04:44, phil harbath wrote:
            > I went Redshift and have been very pleased.  I can
            get by using a lot less computers than before on most
            projects, volume smoke is pretty much all I use MR for
            anymore.  I have several computers with a combination
            of 780TI, 770, and 970, while I think the 780Ti give
            the best performance, it really makes more sense to buy
            the 970 as they are priced better or 980 if you have
            more cash.  The Redshift say go with the cards with the
            most ram (that would be Titan 6tb, if you got even more
            cash), depends on your needs of course.
            >
            > From: David Rivera
            > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:51 PM
            > To: Softimage Mailing List
            > Subject: Best graphic card for Softimage?
            >
            > I know this subject has been posted a lot over the
            years, but it happens that I read a benchmark
            performance between autodesk products on certain
            webpage. They tested Radeons vs Nvidias and turns out
            that Mudbox and Softimage ran better on AMD (Radeons) -
            this is mental ray render.
            >
            >
            > So I was wondering whether to go full on mental ray
            (CPU) or take my savings and put it on a GPU renderer?
            Either case, now a days, which is the middle ranked
            graphic card for softimage? (My budget is around 1k).
            >
            >
            > Thanks.
            >
            > David Rivera
            > 3D Compositor/Animator
            > LinkedIN
            > Behance
            > VFX Reel
            >





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