Hi Daniel,

thanks for the link!

I had found those blueprint style drawings already but there´s more nice info in the thread I didn´t have.

You´re right, I´m playing around with Game assets.

Here in Germany, we don´t have Internet filtering (like in the UK, we have GEMA, thought) but we do of course have laws regarding the possession of firearms. This can sometimes feel a bit funny, for example in case you ever own a steak hammer that has a knuckle-duster grip, don´t bring it to Germany, even if it´s solid silver.

Itzee verboten, because itzze regarded a dangerous weapon. I don´t see why but that may just be me.

Same could apply for a coffeemug with knuckle duster grip but I´d have to re-check if that is currently allowed or not. For assault rifle type weapons/pistols/rifles/etc , there´s ways to get stuff approved (by having certain parts welded/drilled).

We have a few dealer here specialized on deactivated stuff, sometimes even offering reasonable pricing.

For stuff like Tommy Guns, Stens, AK(m)s, M16´s that´s better sources than flimsy Airsoft models but there´s exceptions.


Cheers,

tim

P.S: Another good source is google´s us patent search...





Am 20.02.2015 um 13:50 schrieb Daniel Brassard:
You must have some serious filters in Germany for weapons. It took me 1 Google minute to fing a blueprint of the stoner 63.
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=650934
Middle of the page has a full scaled blueprint.
Yes, company are very protective of their IP. You also have toconsider that information like weapons are controlled for safety and security reasons.
Look like you are working on game assets.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Tim Leydecker <bauero...@gmx.de <mailto:bauero...@gmx.de>> wrote:

    Thanks guys for the links and suggestions.

    I´ve checked my specs, turns out that my triangle limit for a car
    should be
    in the 25000 - 45 000 tri region, incl. interiors.

    That means interesting silhouettes are still possible but no
    specific make details.

    I´ve ordered some books to cook things down into their essence and
    go from there,
    still trying to find representative examples of a specific area as
    "C-Frame" masters
    to pop various grills and bodies on, generalising wheelbases and
    interiors.


    For the guns, stuff like the Stoner 63 or any type of shotguns
    like Winchester M97 or M12´s
    are hard to come by in Germany and airsoft replicas are the only
    option, also for stuff
    like some types of tactical lights, nightvision scopes and
    pistol-grip shotguns, as there
    are quite some restrictions for possession of such stuff in Germany.

    Not to mention thatColt for example is touchy when using their IP.
    Like IKEA.

    In short, I guess I´ll be able to depict a specific class but not
    specific makes.

    Cheers,

    tim


    Am 19.02.2015 um 16:29 schrieb Tom Kleinenberg:
    Sorry, the complete list is a little more impressive
    http://www.suurland.com/assets.php

    On 19 February 2015 at 17:28, Tom Kleinenberg <zagan...@gmail.com
    <mailto:zagan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        I use Suurland
        (http://www.suurland.com/blueprints.php?catagory=2&order=name) but
        they're not >1k.

        On 19 February 2015 at 16:57, Gerbrand Nel <nagv...@gmail.com
        <mailto:nagv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            For weapons you could look into airsoft replicas.
            The insides are airsoft, but the outsides of these"toys"
            are sometimes very accurate.
            Just a thought :)
            G

            On 19/02/2015 16:15, Tim Leydecker wrote:

                Hi guys,


                does anyone know of a good ressource for firearms and
                vehicles:

                weapons blueprints - Swedish K´s/Port Said´s, Stoner
                63´s, S&W K-Frames, M16/M16A1´s, M60s.
                vehicle blueprints, especially 60´s cars, from sedans
                to station wagons.

                I´d be willing to pay handling fees for machining
                level data and or reliable dimensions
                depending on origin (laws applicable)
                bolthead/receiver int. detail data can be excluded.

                I´m finding it especially hard to find really good
                vehicle data.

                There´s some GMC heritage stuff and a variety of
                books on amazon available
                but multi view plans of 60s/70cars are rare, as is
                photo data.

                There are many 3D models available (like from
                humster3D.com) to start with but I would appreciate
                to be able to add more accuracy and detail based on
                plans and references.

                For weapons, here in Germany, I can resort to getting
                deact´s for hands on data aquisition or check
                weaponeer.net <http://weaponeer.net> to see
                enthusiasts at work but for cars, there´s loads of
                stuff less than accurate enough.

                Cheers,

                tim












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