Le 2012-03-27 à 13:12, Maoke a écrit :
> 2012/3/27 Rémi Després <despres.r...@laposte.net>
> With TTL transparency added, I don't see what would be missing, even with all 
> requirements you expressed.
> 
> well, it is still uncertain how 4rd-u will do this. it is uncertain if the 
> new ad hoc complement doesn't introduce new problems. could we see it by the 
> end of IETF83? 

Sure.
basic ID: 
- At domain entry, put TTL bit 0 as leftmost bit of the IPv6 hop count, and 
bits 1-7 in the remaining space of the IPv6 packet ID. Put 127 in bits 1-7 of 
the hop count.
- A exit, take bit 0 from the hop count, and bits 1-7 from the packet ID. 

The only constraint it introduces is that the longest IPv6 path within the 
domain must not exceed 127 (something that AFAIK shouldn't be a problem)
OK?

RD

> 
> thanks,
> maoke 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> RD
> 
> 
>>  
>> 
>> so long,
>> - maoke
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> d) I didn't see any reference to TTL = 1 in the EBGP of RFC2260. Do you 
>>> know a better reference than this RFC?
>>> 
>>> RFC2260 is informational rather than standard. BGP4 specification is 
>>> RFC4271 and you may be interested in the NEXT_HOP behavior of EBGP. TTL = 
>>> 1, as i mentioned, is not a standard feature, but used in some 
>>> implementations (including Cisco IOS and Juniper JUNOS and the open-source 
>>> routing tool Quagga, to my best knowledge) in order to ensure the standard 
>>> feature that defaultly EBGP is established over an immediate link. as a 
>>> quick evidence of the implementation, in bgpd.c of quagga suite we may read 
>>> the piece of source code: 
>>> 
>>>    peer->ttl = (peer_sort (peer) == BGP_PEER_IBGP ? 255 : 1);
>>> 
>>> it is saying, if the peer is IBGP, the TTL of IP header carrying it should 
>>> be set to 255; while if it is EBGP, TTL should be 1. 
>> 
>> Not familiar enough with the subject to know whether these implementations 
>> cannot be configured so that they don't care.
>> I noted that RFC4271 doesn't have the word virtual link, and that RFC2328 
>> only mentions "configured" virtual links (=> out of scope).  
>> 
>> If, despite this, you get WG support for a requirement of "1hop-only 
>> tunnels", the best answer is IMHO to include its support in 4rd-U.
>> This AFAIK will close this issue.
>> 
>> Thanks for this clarification,
>> RD
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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