Hi Paul,

There are lots of people/companies using SPM for Solr/SolrCloud and I don't
recall anyone saying SPM agent collecting metrics via JMX had a negative
impact on Solr performance.  That said, some people really dislike JMX and
some open source projects choose to expose metrics via custom stats APIs or
even files.

Otis
--
Performance Monitoring * Log Analytics * Search Analytics
Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Paul Libbrecht <p...@hoplahup.net> wrote:

> Hello Otis,
>
> this looks like an excellent idea!
> I'm in need of that, erm… last week and probably this one too.
>
> Is there not a risk that reading certain JMX properties actually hogs the
> process? (or is it by design that MBeans are supposed to be read without
> any lock effect?).
>
> thanks for the hint.
>
> paul
>
>
>
> On 6 mai 2014, at 04:43, Otis Gospodnetic <otis.gospodne...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Alexandre, you could use something like
> > http://blog.sematext.com/2012/09/25/new-tool-jmxc-jmx-console/ to
> quickly
> > dump everything out of JMX and see if there is anything there Solr Admin
> UI
> > doesn't expose.  I think you'll find there is more in JMX than Solr Admin
> > UI shows.
> >
> > Otis
> > --
> > Performance Monitoring * Log Analytics * Search Analytics
> > Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <
> arafa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you everybody for the links and explanations.
> >>
> >> I am still curious whether JMX exposes more details than the Admin UI?
> >> I am thinking of a troubleshooting context, rather than long-term
> >> monitoring one.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>   Alex.
> >> Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
> >> Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr
> >> proficiency
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Gora Mohanty <g...@mimirtech.com>
> wrote:
> >>> On May 5, 2014 7:09 AM, "Alexandre Rafalovitch" <arafa...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have religiously kept <jmx> statement in my solrconfig.xml, thinking
> >>>> it was enabling the web interface statistics output.
> >>>>
> >>>> But looking at the server logs really closely, I can see that JMX is
> >>>> actually disabled without server present. And the Admin UI does not
> >>>> actually seem to care after a quick test.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anybody have a real experience with Solr JMX? Does it expose more
> >>>> information than Admin UI's Plugins/Stats page? Is it good for
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Have not been using JMX lately, but we were using it in the past. It
> does
> >>> allow monitoring many useful details. As others have commented, it also
> >>> integrates well with other monitoring  tools as JMX is a standard.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Gora
> >>
>
>

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