“Optimize” is a manual full merge.

Solr automatically merges segments as needed. This also expunges deleted 
documents.

We really need to rename “optimize” to “force merge”. Is there a Jira for that?

wunder
Walter Underwood
wun...@wunderwood.org
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)

On Jun 29, 2015, at 5:15 AM, Steven White <swhite4...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Upayavira,
> 
> This is news to me that we should not optimize and index.
> 
> What about disk space saving, isn't optimization to reclaim disk space or
> is Solr somehow does that?  Where can I read more about this?
> 
> I'm on Solr 5.1.0 (may switch to 5.2.1)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Steve
> 
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:16 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> I'm afraid I don't understand. You're saying that optimising is causing
>> performance issues?
>> 
>> Simple solution: DO NOT OPTIMIZE!
>> 
>> Optimisation is very badly named. What it does is squashes all segments
>> in your index into one segment, removing all deleted documents. It is
>> good to get rid of deletes - in that sense the index is "optimized".
>> However, future merges become very expensive. The best way to handle
>> this topic is to leave it to Lucene/Solr to do it for you. Pretend the
>> "optimize" option never existed.
>> 
>> This is, of course, assuming you are using something like Solr 3.5+.
>> 
>> Upayavira
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015, at 08:08 AM, Summer Shire wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have to cause of performance issues.
>>> Just want to know if there is a way to tap into the status.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 28, 2015, at 11:37 PM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bigger question, why are you optimizing? Since 3.6 or so, it generally
>>>> hasn't been requires, even, is a bad thing.
>>>> 
>>>> Upayavira
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015, at 09:37 PM, Summer Shire wrote:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have two indexers (Independent processes ) writing to a common solr
>>>>> core.
>>>>> If One indexer process issued an optimize on the core
>>>>> I want the second indexer to wait adding docs until the optimize has
>>>>> finished.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are there ways I can do this programmatically?
>>>>> pinging the core when the optimize is happening is returning OK
>> because
>>>>> technically
>>>>> solr allows you to update when an optimize is happening.
>>>>> 
>>>>> any suggestions ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Summer
>> 

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