Sorry Jamie, I totally missed this email. There was no Jira that I could
find. I created SOLR-7996

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 5:26 AM, Jamie Johnson <jej2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This sounds like a good idea, I'm assuming I'd need to make my own
> UnInvertingReader (or subclass) to do this right?  Is there a way to do
> this on the 5.x codebase or would I still need the solrindexer factory work
> that Tomás mentioned previously?
>
> Tomás, is there a ticket for the SolrIndexer factory?  I'd like to follow
> it's work to know what version of 5.x (or later) I should be looking for
> this in.
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Yonik Seeley <ysee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > UnInvertingReader makes indexed fields look like docvalues fields.
> > The caching itself is still done in FieldCache/FieldCacheImpl
> > but you could perhaps wrap what is cached there to either screen out
> > stuff or construct a new entry based on the user.
> >
> > -Yonik
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Jamie Johnson <jej2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > I think a custom UnInvertingReader would work as I could skip the
> process
> > > of putting things in the cache.  Right now in Solr 4.x though I am
> > caching
> > > based but including the users authorities in the key of the cache so
> > we're
> > > not rebuilding the UnivertedField on every request.  Where in 5.x is
> the
> > > object actually cached?  Will this be possible in 5.x?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Yonik Seeley <ysee...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> The FieldCache has become implementation rather than interface, so I
> > >> don't think you're going to see plugins at that level (it's all
> > >> package protected now).
> > >>
> > >> One could either subclass or re-implement UnInvertingReader though.
> > >>
> > >> -Yonik
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jamie Johnson <jej2...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> > Also in this vein I think that Lucene should support factories for
> the
> > >> > cache creation as described @
> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2394.  I'm not
> endorsing
> > >> the
> > >> > patch that is provided (I haven't even looked at it) just the
> concept
> > in
> > >> > general.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Jamie Johnson <jej2...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> That makes sense, then I could extend the SolrIndexSearcher by
> > creating
> > >> a
> > >> >> different factory class that did whatever magic I needed.  If you
> > >> create a
> > >> >> Jira ticket for this please link it here so I can track it!  Again
> > >> thanks
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tomás Fernández Löbbe <
> > >> >> tomasflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> I don't think there is a way to do this now. Maybe we should
> > separate
> > >> the
> > >> >>> logic of creating the SolrIndexSearcher to a factory. Moving this
> > logic
> > >> >>> away from SolrCore is already a win, plus it will make it easier
> to
> > >> unit
> > >> >>> test and extend for advanced use cases.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Tomás
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Jamie Johnson <jej2...@gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> > Sorry to poke this again but I'm not following the last comment
> of
> > >> how I
> > >> >>> > could go about extending the solr index searcher and have the
> > >> extension
> > >> >>> > used.  Is there an example of this?  Again thanks
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > Jamie
> > >> >>> > On Aug 25, 2015 7:18 AM, "Jamie Johnson" <jej2...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>> > > I had seen this as well, if I over wrote this by extending
> > >> >>> > > SolrIndexSearcher how do I have my extension used?  I didn't
> > see a
> > >> way
> > >> >>> > that
> > >> >>> > > could be plugged in.
> > >> >>> > > On Aug 25, 2015 7:15 AM, "Mikhail Khludnev" <
> > >> >>> mkhlud...@griddynamics.com>
> > >> >>> > > wrote:
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> > >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Jamie Johnson <
> > jej2...@gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> >>> > wrote:
> > >> >>> > >>
> > >> >>> > >> > Thanks Mikhail.  If I'm reading the SimpleFacets class
> > >> correctly,
> > >> >>> out
> > >> >>> > >> > delegates to DocValuesFacets when facet method is FC, what
> > used
> > >> to
> > >> >>> be
> > >> >>> > >> > FieldCache I believe.  DocValuesFacets either uses
> DocValues
> > or
> > >> >>> builds
> > >> >>> > >> then
> > >> >>> > >> > using the UninvertingReader.
> > >> >>> > >> >
> > >> >>> > >>
> > >> >>> > >> Ah.. got it. Thanks for reminding this details.It seems like
> > even
> > >> >>> > >> docValues=true doesn't help with your custom implementation.
> > >> >>> > >>
> > >> >>> > >>
> > >> >>> > >> >
> > >> >>> > >> > I am not seeing a clean extension point to add a custom
> > >> >>> > >> UninvertingReader
> > >> >>> > >> > to Solr, would the only way be to copy the FacetComponent
> and
> > >> >>> > >> SimpleFacets
> > >> >>> > >> > and modify as needed?
> > >> >>> > >> >
> > >> >>> > >> Sadly, yes. There is no proper extension point. Also,
> consider
> > >> >>> > overriding
> > >> >>> > >> SolrIndexSearcher.wrapReader(SolrCore, DirectoryReader) where
> > the
> > >> >>> > >> particular UninvertingReader is created, there you can pass
> the
> > >> own
> > >> >>> one,
> > >> >>> > >> which refers to custom FieldCache.
> > >> >>> > >>
> > >> >>> > >>
> > >> >>> > >> > On Aug 25, 2015 12:42 AM, "Mikhail Khludnev" <
> > >> >>> > >> mkhlud...@griddynamics.com>
> > >> >>> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >>> > >> >
> > >> >>> > >> > > Hello Jamie,
> > >> >>> > >> > > I don't understand how it could choose DocValuesFacets
> (it
> > >> >>> occurs on
> > >> >>> > >> > > docValues=true) field, but then switches to
> > >> >>> > >> UninvertingReader/FieldCache
> > >> >>> > >> > > which means docValues=false. If you can provide more
> > details
> > >> it
> > >> >>> > would
> > >> >>> > >> be
> > >> >>> > >> > > great.
> > >> >>> > >> > > Beside of that, I suppose you can only implement and
> inject
> > >> your
> > >> >>> own
> > >> >>> > >> > > UninvertingReader, I don't think there is an extension
> > point
> > >> for
> > >> >>> > this.
> > >> >>> > >> > It's
> > >> >>> > >> > > too specific requirement.
> > >> >>> > >> > >
> > >> >>> > >> > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 3:50 AM, Jamie Johnson <
> > >> >>> jej2...@gmail.com>
> > >> >>> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >>> > >> > >
> > >> >>> > >> > > > as mentioned in a previous email I have a need to
> provide
> > >> >>> security
> > >> >>> > >> > > controls
> > >> >>> > >> > > > at the term level.  I know that Lucene/Solr doesn't
> > support
> > >> >>> this
> > >> >>> > so
> > >> >>> > >> I
> > >> >>> > >> > had
> > >> >>> > >> > > > baked something onto a 4.x baseline that was sufficient
> > for
> > >> my
> > >> >>> use
> > >> >>> > >> > cases.
> > >> >>> > >> > > > I am now looking to move that implementation to 5.x and
> > am
> > >> >>> running
> > >> >>> > >> into
> > >> >>> > >> > > an
> > >> >>> > >> > > > issue around faceting.  Previously we were able to
> > provide a
> > >> >>> > custom
> > >> >>> > >> > cache
> > >> >>> > >> > > > implementation that would create separate cache entries
> > >> given a
> > >> >>> > >> > > particular
> > >> >>> > >> > > > set of security controls, but in Solr 5 some faceting
> is
> > >> >>> delegated
> > >> >>> > >> to
> > >> >>> > >> > > > DocValuesFacets which delegates to UninvertingReader in
> > my
> > >> case
> > >> >>> > (we
> > >> >>> > >> are
> > >> >>> > >> > > not
> > >> >>> > >> > > > storing DocValues).  The issue I am running into is
> that
> > >> before
> > >> >>> > 5.x
> > >> >>> > >> I
> > >> >>> > >> > had
> > >> >>> > >> > > > the ability to influence the FieldCache that was used
> at
> > the
> > >> >>> Solr
> > >> >>> > >> level
> > >> >>> > >> > > to
> > >> >>> > >> > > > also include a security token into the key so each
> cache
> > >> entry
> > >> >>> was
> > >> >>> > >> > scoped
> > >> >>> > >> > > > to a particular level.  With the current implementation
> > the
> > >> >>> > >> FieldCache
> > >> >>> > >> > > > seems to be an internal detail that I can't influence
> in
> > >> >>> anyway.
> > >> >>> > Is
> > >> >>> > >> > this
> > >> >>> > >> > > > correct?  I had noticed this Jira ticket
> > >> >>> > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-5427, is
> > there
> > >> >>> any
> > >> >>> > >> > movement
> > >> >>> > >> > > > on
> > >> >>> > >> > > > this?  Is there another way to influence the
> information
> > >> that
> > >> >>> is
> > >> >>> > put
> > >> >>> > >> > into
> > >> >>> > >> > > > these caches?  As always thanks in advance for any
> > >> suggestions.
> > >> >>> > >> > > >
> > >> >>> > >> > > > -Jamie
> > >> >>> > >> > > >
> > >> >>> > >> > >
> > >> >>> > >> > >
> > >> >>> > >> > >
> > >> >>> > >> > > --
> > >> >>> > >> > > Sincerely yours
> > >> >>> > >> > > Mikhail Khludnev
> > >> >>> > >> > > Principal Engineer,
> > >> >>> > >> > > Grid Dynamics
> > >> >>> > >> > >
> > >> >>> > >> > > <http://www.griddynamics.com>
> > >> >>> > >> > > <mkhlud...@griddynamics.com>
> > >> >>> > >> > >
> > >> >>> > >> >
> > >> >>> > >>
> > >> >>> > >>
> > >> >>> > >>
> > >> >>> > >> --
> > >> >>> > >> Sincerely yours
> > >> >>> > >> Mikhail Khludnev
> > >> >>> > >> Principal Engineer,
> > >> >>> > >> Grid Dynamics
> > >> >>> > >>
> > >> >>> > >> <http://www.griddynamics.com>
> > >> >>> > >> <mkhlud...@griddynamics.com>
> > >> >>> > >>
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> >
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
>

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