MaryJo you might want to start a new thread, I think we kinda hijacked this one. Also if you are interested in tuning queries check out http://splainer.io/ and https://www.quepid.com which are interactive tools (both of which my company makes) to tune for search relevancy.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:45 PM, MaryJo Sminkey <mjsmin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm really thinking this just might not be the right tool for us, what we > really need is a solution that works like the normal synonym filter does, > just with proper multi-term support, so I can apply the synonyms only on > certain fields (copied fields) that have their own, lower boost settings. > The way this plugin works across the entire query just seems too > problematic when you need to do complex queries with lots of different > boost settings to get good relevancy. Anyone used a different method of > handling multi-term synonyms that isn't as global? > > Mary Jo > > > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:31 PM, MaryJo Sminkey <mjsmin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Here's the issue I am still having with getting the right search > relevancy > > with the synonym plugin in place. We typically have users searching on > > multiple terms, and we want matches across multiple terms, particularly > > those that appears as phrases, to appear higher than matches for the same > > term multiple times. The synonym filter makes this complicated since we > may > > have cases where the term the user enters, like "sbc", maps to a > multi-term > > synonym like "small block", and we always want the matches for the > original > > term to pop up first, so I'm trying to make sure the original boost is > high > > enough to override a phrase boost that the multi-term synonym would give. > > Unfortunately this then means matches on the same term multiple times get > > pushed up over my phrase matches...those aren't going to be the most > > relevant matches. Not sure there's a way to solve this successfully, > > without a completely different approach to the synonyms... or not > counting > > the number of matches on terms (I assume you can drop that ability, > > although that's not ideal either...just better than what I have now). > > > > MJ > > > > > > > > Sent with MailTrack > > < > https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature&lang=en&referral=mjsmin...@gmail.com&idSignature=22 > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:39 PM, MaryJo Sminkey <mjsmin...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Joe Lawson < > >> jlaw...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> We were thinking, as you experimented with, that the 0.5 and 2.0 boosts > >>> were no match for the product name and keyword field boosts so that > would > >>> influence your search as well. > >> > >> > >> > >> Yeah I definitely will have to play with the values a bit as we want the > >> product name matches to always appear highest, whether original or > >> synonyms, but I'll have to figure out how to get that result without one > >> word terms that have multi word synonyms getting overly boosted for a > >> phrase match.... while still sufficiently boosting the normal phrase > match > >> stuff too. With the normal synonym filter I was able to just copy fields > >> that could have synonyms to a new field (which would be the only one > with > >> the synonym filter), and use a different, lower boost on those fields, > but > >> that won't work with this plugin which applies across everything in the > >> query. Makes it a bit more complicated to get everything just right. > >> > >> MJ > >> > >> > >> Sent with MailTrack > >> < > https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature&lang=en&referral=mjsmin...@gmail.com&idSignature=22 > > > >> > > > > >
