The issue is, that we lack translations for much of our attribute data. We
do have English versions. The idea is to use the English values for the
faceted values and for the filters, but be able to retrieve different
language versions of the term to the caller.
If we have a facet on color if the value is red, be able to retrieve rojo
for Spanish etc...

Also users can switch regions between searches. If a user starts out in
French, executes a search, selects a facet then switches to German they
should get the German for the facet (if it exists) even when they
originally used French. If all of the searching was in English where we
have the data, we could then show French (or German etc) for the facet
value.

The real field value that we use for filtering would be in English but the
values returned to the user would be in the language of their locale or
English if we don't have a translation for it. The idea being that the
translations would be stored in the payloads

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 7:47 PM, Chris Hostetter <hossman_luc...@fucit.org>
wrote:

>
> : The payload idea was from my boss, it's similar to how they did this in
> : Endeca.
>         ...
> : My alternate idea is to have sets of facet fields for different
> languages,
> : then let our service layer determine the correct one for the user's
> : language, but I'm curious as to how others have solved this.
>
> Let's back up for a minute -- can you please explain your ultimate goal,
> from a "solr client application" perspective? (assuming we have no
> knowledge of how/how you might have used Endeca in the past)
>
> What is it you want your application to be able to do when indexing docs
> to solr and making queries to solr?  give us some real world examples
>
>
>
> (If i had to guess: i gather maybe you're just dealing with a "keywords"
> type field that you want to facet on -- and maybe you could use a diff
> field for each langauge, or encode the langauges as a prefix on each term
> and use facet.prefix to restrict the facet contraints returned)
>
>
>
> https://people.apache.org/~hossman/#xyproblem
> XY Problem
>
> Your question appears to be an "XY Problem" ... that is: you are dealing
> with "X", you are assuming "Y" will help you, and you are asking about "Y"
> without giving more details about the "X" so that we can understand the
> full issue.  Perhaps the best solution doesn't involve "Y" at all?
> See Also: http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=542341
>
>
>
> :
> : On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Markus Jelsma <
> markus.jel...@openindex.io>
> : wrote:
> :
> : > Technically they could, facetting is possible on TextField, but it
> would
> : > be useless for facetting. Payloads are only used for scoring via a
> custom
> : > Similarity. Payloads also can only contain one byte of information (or
> was
> : > it 64 bits?)
> : >
> : > Payloads are not something you want to use when dealing with
> translations.
> : > We handle facet constraint (and facet field)  translations just by
> mapping
> : > internal value to a translated value when displaying facet, and vice
> versa
> : > when filtering.
> : >
> : > -----Original message-----
> : > > From:Webster Homer <webster.ho...@sial.com>
> : > > Sent: Wednesday 23rd August 2017 20:22
> : > > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> : > > Subject: Facet on a Payload field type?
> : > >
> : > > Is it possible to facet on  a payload field type?
> : > >
> : > > We are moving from Endeca to Solr. We have a number of Endeca facets
> : > where
> : > > we have hacked in multilangauge support. The multiple languages are
> : > really
> : > > just for displaying the value of a term internally the value used to
> : > search
> : > > is in English. The problem is that we don't have translations for
> most of
> : > > our facet data and this was a way to support multiple languages with
> the
> : > > data we have.
> : > >
> : > > Looking at the Solrj FacetField class I cannot tell if the value can
> : > >  contain  a payload or not
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