FYI: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-14471
Wei, assuming you have only TLOG replicas, your "last place" matches
(to which the random fallback ordering would not be applied -- see
above issue) would be the same as the "first place" matches selected
for executing distributed requests.


On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:49 PM Michael Gibney
<mich...@michaelgibney.net> wrote:
>
> Wei, probably no need to answer my earlier questions; I think I see
> the problem here, and believe it is indeed a bug, introduced in 8.3.
> Will file an issue and submit a patch shortly.
> Michael
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:49 PM Michael Gibney
> <mich...@michaelgibney.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Wei,
> >
> > In considering this problem, I'm stumbling a bit on terminology
> > (particularly, where you mention "nodes", I think you're referring to
> > "replicas"?). Could you confirm that you have 10 TLOG replicas per
> > shard, for each of 6 shards? How many *nodes* (i.e., running solr
> > server instances) do you have, and what is the replica placement like
> > across those nodes? What, if any, non-TLOG replicas do you have per
> > shard (not that it's necessarily relevant, but just to get a complete
> > picture of the situation)?
> >
> > If you're able without too much trouble, can you determine what the
> > behavior is like on Solr 8.3? (there were different changes introduced
> > to potentially relevant code in 8.3 and 8.4, and knowing whether the
> > behavior you're observing manifests on 8.3 would help narrow down
> > where to look for an explanation).
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:34 PM Wei <weiwan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Update:  after I remove the shards.preference parameter from
> > > solrconfig.xml,  issue is gone and internal shard requests are now
> > > balanced. The same parameter works fine with solr 7.6.  Still not sure of
> > > the root cause, but I observed a strange coincidence: the nodes that are
> > > most frequently picked for shard requests are the first node in each shard
> > > returned from the CLUSTERSTATUS api.  Seems something wrong with shuffling
> > > equally compared nodes when shards.preference is set.  Will report back if
> > > I find more.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 5:59 PM Wei <weiwan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Eric,
> > > >
> > > > I am measuring the number of shard requests, and it's for query only, no
> > > > indexing requests.  I have an external load balancer and see each node
> > > > received about the equal number of external queries. However for the
> > > > internal shard queries,  the distribution is uneven:    6 nodes (one in
> > > > each shard,  some of them are leaders and some are non-leaders ) gets 
> > > > about
> > > > 80% of the shard requests, the other 54 nodes gets about 20% of the 
> > > > shard
> > > > requests.   I checked a few other parameters set:
> > > >
> > > > -Dsolr.disable.shardsWhitelist=true
> > > > shards.preference=replica.location:local,replica.type:TLOG
> > > >
> > > > Nothing seems to cause the strange behavior.  Any suggestions how to
> > > > debug this?
> > > >
> > > > -Wei
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 5:42 PM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Wei:
> > > >>
> > > >> How are you measuring utilization here? The number of incoming requests
> > > >> or CPU?
> > > >>
> > > >> The leader for each shard are certainly handling all of the indexing
> > > >> requests since they’re TLOG replicas, so that’s one thing that might
> > > >> skewing your measurements.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Erick
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Apr 27, 2020, at 7:13 PM, Wei <weiwan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi everyone,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I have a strange issue after upgrade from 7.6.0 to 8.4.1. My cloud 
> > > >> > has 6
> > > >> > shards with 10 TLOG replicas each shard.  After upgrade I noticed 
> > > >> > that
> > > >> one
> > > >> > of the replicas in each shard is handling most of the distributed 
> > > >> > shard
> > > >> > requests, so 6 nodes are heavily loaded while other nodes are idle.
> > > >> There
> > > >> > is no change in shard handler configuration:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > <shardHandlerFactory name="shardHandlerFactory" class=
> > > >> > "HttpShardHandlerFactory">
> > > >> >
> > > >> >    <int name="socketTimeout">30000</int>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >    <int name="connTimeout">30000</int>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >    <int name="maxConnectionsPerHost">500</int>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > </shardHandlerFactory>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > What could cause the unbalanced internal distributed request?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks in advance.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Wei
> > > >>
> > > >>

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