I was wondering if the warmup stuff was one of the culprits (we dont have
warmup's at all - the configs are pretty stock).
As for the system, it seems capable of quite a bit more: memory usage is
~30%, jvm-memory (from the dashboard) is very low (~220Mb out of 3Gb) and
load below 1.00.

The seed data and queries were put together by one of our developers. I've
put all the solrmeter files here:
https://gist.github.com/natefox/ee5cef3d4fbbc73e9bce
Unfortunately I'm quite new to solr (and tomcat) so I'm not entirely sure
which file does which specifically.

Does the system's reaction to a 'fast load' without a warmup sound normal?
I would have expected the first couple hundred queries to be very slow
(>500ms) and then the system catch up after a while. But it just dies very
quickly and never recovers.

I'll check out your SPM - I've seen it mentioned before. Thanks!



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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Otis Gospodnetic <
otis.gospodne...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In short, certain data structures need to load from index in the
> beginning, (for sorting and faceting) caches need to warm up, JVM
> needs to warm up, etc., so going slowly in the beginning makes sense.
> Why things die after that is a different Q.  Maybe it OOMs?  Maybe
> queries are very complex?  What do your queries look like?  I see
> newrelic.jar in the command-line.  May want to try SPM for Solr, it
> has better Solr metrics.
>
> Otis
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> Solr & ElasticSearch Support
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>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Nate Fox <n...@neogov.com> wrote:
> > I'm new to solr and I'm load testing our setup to see what we can handle.
> > I'm using solrmeter and my problem is a bit odd:
> > * When I set solrmeter to run 4000 queries/min, it will handle a few
> > hundred queries and then tomcat will stop responding completely to
> requests
> > (even though according to lsof -i it is still listening and the java
> > process is still running).
> > * When I set solrmeter to run 1000 queries/min it runs fine. I can stop
> > solrmeter after a couple of  minutes at that pace and then run at
> 4000/min
> > without issue.
> >
> > It's as if it needs a ramp up time? Also, I noticed (regardless of ramp
> up)
> > that my setup cannot handle 8000/min. The reaction at 8k/min is the same
> as
> > if I were to run 4k/min without the ramp up. Of note, only the shard that
> > solrmeter is pointed to stops responding. The other shard hums along
> > without incident.
> >
> > Setup (everything in AWS):
> > - 2x m1.large (7.5Gb RAM) running tomcat7 + solr 4.2.0
> > (open-jdk-7-headless) : Ubuntu 12.04
> > - 1x m1.micro running zookeeper 3.4.5 : Ubuntu 12.04
> > I have ~30k documents in each node (~300Mb on each node)
> >
> > The vast majority of my solr/tomcat7 config is default from ubuntu's
> > packages/solr's example dir. Here's the configs and the end of the
> > catalina.out file:https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ef8fa79ecc1673d11bc0
> >
> > My main question is two fold:
> > 1. Is this normal behavior for tomcat (to just stop responding
> completely)
> > when it gets overwhelmed? And the only option is to restart it? I guess I
> > dont know what it looks like when tomcat/solr cant keep up.
> > 2. Why does it handle better when I give it a lower number of queries and
> > then ramp it up? It concerns me that if I have to restart a server in the
> > cluster and it gets thrown into the pool of machines that things will
> blow
> > up.
> >
> > As an aside, does this seem like a normal amount of queries (~4k/min)
> that
> > this kind of environment should be able to handle?
>

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