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Erick

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM, didier deshommes <dfdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any idea on this? I still cannot get the combination of transient cores and
> transientCacheSize to work as I think it should: give me the ability to
> create a large number cores and automatically load and unload them for me
> based on a limit that I set.
>
> If anyone else is using this feature and it is working for you, let me know
> how you got it working!
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:11 PM, didier deshommes <dfdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Erick Erickson 
>> <erickerick...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> The cores aren't loaded (or at least shouldn't be) for getting the status.
>>> The _names_ of the cores should be returned, but those are (supposed) to
>>> be
>>> retrieved from a list rather than loaded cores. So are you sure that's
>>> not what
>>> you are seeing? How are you determining whether the cores are actually
>>> loaded
>>> or not?
>>>
>>>
>> I'm looking at the output of :
>>
>> $ curl "http://localhost:8983/solr/admin/cores?wt=json&action=status";
>>
>> cores that are loaded have a "startTime" and "upTime" value. Cores that
>> are unloaded don't appear in the output at all. For example, I created 3
>> transient cores with "transientCacheSize=2" . When I asked for a list of
>> all cores, all 3 cores were returned. I explicitly unloaded 1 core and got
>> back 2 cores when I asked for the list again.
>>
>> It would be nice if cores had a "isTransient" and a "isCurrentlyLoaded"
>> value so that one could see exactly which cores are loaded.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> That said, it's perfectly possible that the status command is doing
>>> something we
>>> didn't anticipate, but I took a quick look at the code (got to rush to a
>>> plane)
>>> and CoreAdminHandler _appears_ to be just returning whatever info it can
>>> about an unloaded core for status. I _think_ you'll get more info if the
>>> core has ever been loaded though, even though if it's been removed from
>>> the transient cache. Ditto for the create action.
>>>
>>> So let's figure out whether you're really seeing loaded cores or not, and
>>> then
>>> raise a JIRA if so...
>>>
>>> Thanks for reporting!
>>> Erick
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:27 PM, didier deshommes <dfdes...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> > I've been very interested in the transient core feature of solr to
>>> manage a
>>> > large number of cores. I'm especially interested in this use case, that
>>> the
>>> > wiki lists at http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LotsOfCores (looks to be down
>>> > now):
>>> >
>>> >>loadOnStartup=false transient=true: This is really the use-case. There
>>> are
>>> > a large number of cores in your system that are short-duration use. You
>>> > want Solr to load them as necessary, but unload them when the cache gets
>>> > full on an LRU basis.
>>> >
>>> > I'm creating 10 transient core via core admin like so
>>> >
>>> > $ curl "
>>> >
>>> http://localhost:8983/solr/admin/cores?wt=json&action=CREATE&name=new_core2&instanceDir=collection1/&dataDir=new_core2&transient=true&loadOnStartup=false
>>> > "
>>> >
>>> > and have "transientCacheSize=2" in my solr.xml file, which I take means
>>> I
>>> > should have at most 2 transient cores loaded at any time. The problem is
>>> > that these cores are still loaded when when I ask solr to list cores:
>>> >
>>> > $ curl "http://localhost:8983/solr/admin/cores?wt=json&action=status";
>>> >
>>> > From the explanation in the wiki, it looks like solr would manage
>>> loading
>>> > and unloading transient cores for me without having to worry about them,
>>> > but this is not what's happening.
>>> >
>>> > The situation is different when I restart solr; it does the "right
>>> thing"
>>> > by loading the maximum cores set by transientCacheSize. When I add more
>>> > cores, the old behavior happens again, where all created transient cores
>>> > are loaded in solr.
>>> >
>>> > I'm using the development branch lucene_solr_4_3 to run my example. I
>>> can
>>> > open a jira if need be.
>>>
>>
>>

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