Yep, that's the one, thanks...

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>wrote:

> Those are the Fallacies of Distributed Computing from L. Peter Deutsch.
> The first fallacy is "The network is reliable."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacies_of_Distributed_Computing
>
> wunder
>
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Erick Erickson wrote:
>
> > Ah, thanks for the closure, it's always nice to know. I used to work
> > with a guy who had a list of "network fallacies", that amounted to
> > "you can't trust them fully"....
> >
> > Erick
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Jared Griffith
> > <jgriff...@picsauditing.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I think I have it all sorted out.  There are some weird network issues
> here
> >> where my test set up is, so that may have been part of the over all
> issue.
> >> Timeouts wouldn't have fixed this issue, that's for sure.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Erick Erickson <
> erickerick...@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> bq: Though I am seeing some funkiness that I wasn't seeing with Solr &
> >>> Zookeeper running together
> >>>
> >>> Then I suspect you've set something up inconsistently, _or_ you need to
> >>> extend some timeouts because SolrCloud is being run with separate ZKs
> by
> >>> quite a few people so I'd be surprised if it were anything except
> config
> >>> issues.
> >>>
> >>> If you _do_ uncover something in that realm other than timeouts and
> such,
> >>> we need to know....
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Erick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Jared Griffith
> >>> <jgriff...@picsauditing.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> That's what I was thinking.  Though I am seeing some funkiness that I
> >>>> wasn't seeing with Solr & Zookeeper running together.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Shawn Heisey <s...@elyograg.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 8/30/2013 9:43 AM, Jared Griffith wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> One last thing.  Is there any real benefit in running SolrCloud and
> >>>>>> Zookeeper separate?   I am seeing some funkiness with the separation
> >>> of
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> two, funkiness I wasn't seeing when running SolrCloud + Zookeeper
> >>>> together
> >>>>>> as outlined in the Wiki.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For a robust install, you want zookeeper to be a separate process.
> >> It
> >>>> can
> >>>>> run on the same server as Solr, but the embedded zookeeper (-DzkRun)
> >>>> should
> >>>>> not be used except for dev and proof of concept work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The reason is simple.  Zookeeper is the central coordinator for
> >>>> SolrCloud.
> >>>>> In order for it to remain stable, it should not be restarted without
> >>>> good
> >>>>> reason.  If you are running zookeeper as part of Solr, then you will
> >> be
> >>>>> affecting zookeeper operation anytime you restart that instance of
> >>> Solr.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Making changes to your Solr setup often requires that you restart
> >> Solr.
> >>>>> This includes upgrading Solr and changing some aspects of its
> >>>>> configuration.  Some configuration aspects can be changed with just a
> >>>>> collection reload, but others require a full application restart.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Shawn
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Jared Griffith
> >>>> Linux Administrator, PICS Auditing, LLC
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> >>>> C: (909) 653-7814
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Jared Griffith
> >> Linux Administrator, PICS Auditing, LLC
> >> P: (949) 936-4574
> >> C: (909) 653-7814
> >>
> >> <http://www.picsauditing.com>
> >>
> >> 17701 Cowan #140 | Irvine, CA | 92614
> >>
> >> Join PICS on LinkedIn and Twitter!
> >>
> >> <https://twitter.com/PICSAuditingLLC>
> >>
>
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> Walter Underwood
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