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Øòî ñå âèøå õàøêà êëàíèöà çà Ñðáå óïèoå äà äîêàæå äà ñó Ñðáè ãåíîöèäàí íàðîä, òî ñå äðæàâíè îðãàíè Ðåïóáëèêå Ñðáè¼å ñâå ìàoå èç¼àøoàâà¼ó î òàêâèì è ñëè÷íèì òåìàìà. È íå ñàìî äà ñðïñêè ïîëèòè÷àðè (è ïîçèöè¼à è îïîçèöè¼à) íå ïðèäà¼ó íèêàêàâ çíà÷༠îíîìå øòî ñå äåøàâà ó ïðîöåñó êî¼è ¼å ÍÀÒÎ è Çàïàäíî ïðàâîñóå ïîêðåíóëî ïðîòèâ Ðàäîâàíà ÊàðàYèzà, âåz ñó, ðåêëî áè ñå, è ñðïñêè ìåäè¼è äîáèëè çàáðàíó äà î ñëè÷íèì ñòâàðèìà ñëîáîäíî ïèøó èëè ãîâîðå. £îø îä îíîã ÷àñà, êàäà ñå, íàêîí ïðîøëîãîäèøoåã õàïøåoà Ðàäîâàíà ÊàðàYèzà, ó Âàøèíãòîí Ïîñòó îãëàñèî Ðè÷àðä Õîëáðóê (The Face of Evil), ïðîãëàøàâà¼ózè Ñðáå "îëè÷åoåì çëà", ñâàêîì, êî ¼å èìàëî óìåî äà ìèñëè âëàñòèòîì ãëàâîì, ïîñòàëî ¼å ¼àñíî äà ¼å çàïî÷åëà äðóãà (çàâðøíà) ôàçà ñðïñêîã îáåçãëàâsèâàoà, êî¼à ¼å ïëàíèðàíà ¼îø ñåäàìäåñåòèõ è îñàìäåñåòèõ ãîäèíà ïðîøëîã âåêà è êî¼à ¼å ¼àñíî è íåäâîñìèñëåíî èçðå÷åíà 1992. ãîäèíå, êàäà ¼å îðY Áóø Ñåíèîð óïóòèî "Áîæèzíó îïîìåíó" òàäàøoåì ïðåäñåäíèêó Ñðáè¼å, Ñëîáîäàíó Ìèëîøåâèzó. Íàðàâíî, øåñò ìåñåöè ïðå òîãà óâåäåíå ñó åêîíîìñêå ñàíêöè¼å Ñðáè¼è, à èñòè àìåðè÷êè ïðåäñåäíèê (. Áóø Ñòàðè¼è) îäðæàî ¼å òàäà (àâãóñò, 2002.) ñâî¼ ÷óâåíè ãîâîð ïðåä íîâèíàðèìà ó Êîëîðàäî Ñïðèíãñó, èç êîãà ñå òàêîå ìîãëî çàêsó÷èòè êàêî zå ñå àìåðè÷êà ïîëèòèêà îäíîñèòè ïðåìà Ñðáèìà, êî¼è ñó ïî çàïàäíèì ìåðèëèìà "àãðåñîðè - äèâsàöè" è êî¼è zå çáîã òîãà ìîðàòè äà "ïëàòå îçáèsíó öåíó". À êîëèêî zå ïîìåíóòà "öåíà" áèòè âåëèêà è îçáèsíà, ïîêàçó¼å è íîâà îïòóæíèöà ïðîòèâ Ðàäîâàíà ÊàðàYèzà, ó êî¼î¼ ñå "óäðóæåíè çëî÷èíà÷êè ïîäóõâàò" ïîäèæå íà íîâè íèâî "ñâåîáóõâàòíîñòè", ÷èìå ñå ïðåòïîñòàâsåíè ñðïñêè "çëî÷èíè" èç¼åäíà÷àâà¼ó ñà îïøòå-ïðîãðàìèðàíèì äåëîâàoåì íàöèñòà ó Äðóãîì ñâåòñêîì ðàòó è ïëàíèðàíèì óíèøòåoåì £åâðå¼à íà òëó Åâðîïå. Íàðàâíî, õàøêå òóæèòåså íèìàëî íå çáóoó¼å èñòèíà è î÷èòå íåëîãè÷íîñòè, çáîã êî¼èõ ñó ñå ÷àê è ÍÀÒÎ ñóäè¼å "óñóäèëå" äà ïîñòàâå îäðååíà ïèòàoà. Äàêëå, êàêî ïîâåçàòè "îïñàäó Ñàðà¼åâà", êî¼à íèêàäà íè¼å ïîñòî¼àëà, ¼åäíîñòàâíî çáîã ÷èoåíèöå äà ñó áðäà îêî Ñàðà¼åâà ñ ¼åäíå ñòðàíå áèëà çàïîñåäíóòà ñðïñêèì à ñà äðóãå ìóñëèìàíñêî-õðâàòñêèì ñíàãàìà. Èëè, àêî ¼å "îïñàäå" è áèëî, òàäà ¼å îíà áèëà ìóëòèåòíè÷êà: ìóñëèìàíñêà-õðâàòñêà è ñðïñêà. Çà÷óäî, èàêî ¼å òó ñòâàð äî êðà¼à ¼àñíà (î òîìå ñó èñêàçå äàëè ìíîãè ñâåäîöè: "äîìàzè" è ñòðàíè), ñðïñêà ïîëèòèêà íè¼å íèêàäà ïîêóøàëà äà ðàçáè¼å òó ïîãðåøíó ïðåäñòàâó, ñêðî¼åíó ïî ìåðè çàïàäíèõ ìåäè¼à, à êî¼à Ñðáå ÷èíè "çëî÷èíöèìà" ó î÷èìà îíèõ sóäè êî¼è äðóãà÷è¼å èíôîðìàöè¼å íèñó ó ñòàoó äà ÷ó¼ó. ×àê è íàøèì sóäèìà, Ñðáèìà ó Ñðáè¼è è äè¼àñïîðè, íè¼å îñòàëî ìíîãî ìîãózíîñòè è, õòåëè íå õòåëè, ïðèíóåíè ñó äà ïðèõâàòå èëè îäzóòå òàêâó íîòîðíó è ëàêî äîêàçèâó íåèñòèíó. Çàïðàâî, çàõâàsó¼ózè íåáðèçè ñðïñêèõ âëàñòè ó Ñðáè¼è, äîzè zå âðåìå ó êîìå zå òàêâà ëàæ (î íàâîäíî¼ ñðïñêî¼ îïñàäè Ñàðà¼åâà) áèòè ¼åäíîãëàñíî ïðîãëàøåíà íåïîðåöèâîì èñòèíîì. Èçãëåäà äà íå ïîñòî¼è íàðîä íà ñâåòó, êî¼è ¼å "âåøòè¼è" îä Ñðáà ó ëàãàoó ñåáå ñàìèõ. Ñðáèí è íà¼âåzè ïîðàç çà÷àñ ïðèêàæå êàî ñâî¼ó ïîáåäó è òî zå ìîzè äà ÷èíè ñâå äîòëå äîê áóäå ¼îø æèâèõ Ñðáà êî¼è zå òàêâà áóäàëàñòà íàêëàïàoà áèòè ó ñòàoó äà ñàæâàzó. Çàõâàsó¼ózè íåìàðíîñòè ñðïñêèõ âëàñòîäðæàöà, Ìåóíàðîäíè ñóä ïðàâäå ó Õàãó ¼å îçâàíè÷èî "ãåíîöèä" íàä ìóñëèìàíèìà ó Ñðåáðåíèöè, èàêî ¼å ïîñòî¼àî äîáàð íà÷èí äà ñå òàêâå, óãëàâíîì èçìèøsåíå îïòóæáå íåäâîñìèñëåíî è àðãóìåíòîâàíî ðàçîáëè÷å. È óìåñòî äà ñå ñòðîãî äðæå èñòèíå, ñðïñêà ïîëèòè÷êà êàìàðèëà ñå îäëó÷èëà çà "èçìèðåoå" ñ äî¼ó÷åðøoîì "áðàzîì", ñëåäåzè ïîíèæàâà¼ózå ïîíàøàoå ñâîãà "âîå" - Áîðèñà Òàäèzà. Ïîâëà÷å ñå òóæáå ïðîòèâ ÁÕ Ôåäåðàöè¼å è Õðâàòñêå. Èíñèñòèðàoåì íà íåíàäëåæíîñòè ÌÑÏ âåøòà÷êè ñå ñòâàðàî ïðèâèä íåêàêâå "ñðïñêå êðèâèöå" çáîã êî¼å, åòî, Ñðáè "áåæå îä îäãîâîðíîñòè". Ó òàêàâ "ñâåîáóõâàòíè óäðóæåíè çëî÷èíà÷êè ïîäóõâàò" ñïàäà è êîðèøzåoå ïðèïàäíèêà ÓÍ êàî òàîöà, äà áè ñå çàóñòàâèëî çëî÷èíà÷êî è íåçàêîíèòî áîìáàðäîâàoå Ðåïóáëèêå Ñðïñêå. Î÷èãëåäíî äà "ìåóíàðîäíà çà¼åäíèöà", êî¼à ¼å ñóðîãàò çà ÑÀÄ, ñìàòðà äà íèêî íåìà ïðàâî äà ñå oèõîâî¼ (àìåðè÷êî¼) ñèëè ñóïðîñòàâè. Àêî òî íåêî è ïîêóøà, òàêàâ îáàâåçíî ìîðà áèòè æåñòîêî êàæoåí - íà¼ìàoå äîæèâîòíîì ðîáè¼îì! Êî ñå ¼îø ó Ñðáè¼è ñåzà ãåíåðàëà Ïàâêîâèzà è Ëàçàðåâèzà? Áðàíèëè ñó çåìsó îíàêî êàêî ñó ìîðàëè è áèëè îáàâåçíè äà ÷èíå è çáîã òîãà èõ ¼å òà èñòà çåìsà èçðó÷èëà íåïðè¼àòåsèìà. È òàêàâ ÷èí âèøå íèêî íå ñìàòðà âåëåèçäà¼îì, âåz íå÷èì øòî ¼å, ìàëòåíå, ñàñâèì ó ðåäó. Sóäè ñó ñå çàêëåëè ÷àøzó è æèâîòîì äà zå áðàíèòè ñâî¼ó îòàYáèíó Ñðáè¼ó è òî ñó îäãîâîðíî ÷èíèëè ñâå äî ÷àñà ó êîìå ñó ñðïñêè ïîëèòè÷àðè ïîòïèñàëè êàïèòóëàöè¼ó. Íåêîëèêî ãîäèíà äîöíè¼å, ïîëèòè÷àðè ñó îäëó÷èëè äà âî¼íèêå êî¼è ñó ÷àñíî áðàíèëè çåìsó è ñâî¼ íàðîä èñïîðó÷å êàî îáè÷íó ìàðâó îíèìà êî¼è ñó íàì äðæàâó óíèøòèëè. Ó ðàòó ñå èçäà¼à äîíåêëå ìîæå è ðàçóìåòè, ïà è âåëåèçäà¼à êî¼à ñå ìîæå ïî÷èíèòè óñëåä ñòðàõà (èàêî ñå íèêàêî íå ìîæå îïðàâäàòè); àëè, òåøêî äà ïîñòî¼è çëî÷èí êî¼è áè áèî âåzè îä òîãà äà ñå íàêîí ðàòà èçäà¼ó îíè êî¼è ñó ñå òðóäèëè äà çàøòèòå íå ñàìî æèâîòå ñâîã íàðîäà, âåz è äà, ó ìåðè ó êî¼î¼ ¼å òî âî¼íèêó äàòî, ñà÷óâà¼ó îáðàç è ÷àñò íàöè¼å. Ñòîãà, ñðïñêè ïîëèòè÷àðè íèñó ñàìî âåëåèçäà¼íèöè - îíè ñó óáèöå Ñðáè¼å! To: balkann...@yahoogroups.com; balkanr...@yahoogroups.com; n...@antic.org; n...@siem.net; ser...@googlegroups.com; serbiannewsnetw...@yahoogroups.com; sorabia@yahoogroups.com; yugol...@yahoogroups.com CC: radovankaradzicn...@yahoogroups.com; republikasrp...@yahoogroups.com; serbianfo...@yahoogroups.com From: antic.miros...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 20:39:05 -0400 Subject: [sorabia] Charges Against Karadzic Questioned Charges Against Karadzic Questioned Judge asks prosecution to explain how all counts in indictment fit into single, "overarching" criminal plan. By Simon Jennings in The Hague (TU No 600, 8-May-09) Prosecutors bringing the case against former Bosnian Serb president Radovan Karadzic at the Hague tribunal came under the spotlight this week when the pre-trial judge questioned them about their formulation of the charges against the defendant. Judge Iain Bonomy raised concerns relating to the prosecution's allegations that Karadzic took part in three separate criminal conspiracies, known as "joint criminal enterprises", in Bosnia between 1992 and 1995. According to the prosecution's indictment, these separate plans all fell under an earlier conceived, "overarching plan" aimed at permanently removing Bosniaks and Bosnian Croats from Bosnian Serb- claimed territory in Bosnia. Judge Bonomy pointed out that in the indictment, the description of the overarching plan - which was alleged to have been conducted in Bosnia from as early as October 1991 until November 30, 1995 - omits three of the 11 counts, as well as two of the three additional alleged criminal conspiracies that Karadzic is accused of. "It is difficult to see how the initial joint criminal enterprise [which is outlined in the indictment] can be said to be 'overarching'," Judge Bonomy told American prosecutor, Alan Tieger. The prosecution has charged Karadzic with separate criminal conspiracies relating to the siege of Sarajevo between April 1992 and November 1995; the 1995 genocide at Srebrenica when approximately 8,000 Bosniak males were slaughtered; and the taking of United Nations hostages between May and June 1995 to force NATO to refrain from carrying out airstrikes against Bosnian Serb targets. Karadzic was also part of the "overarching" plan carried out between October 1991 and November 30, 1995, say prosecutors in the indictment. "[The mention of an 'overarching' plan] would tend to indicate that the other three somehow fall within the ambit of this overarching joint criminal enterprise," Judge Bonomy told the prosecution. "But a closer reading of the indictment indicates that the [siege of Sarajevo and the UN hostage allegation] do not, on the face of the indictment, fall within the overarching joint criminal enterprise." Tieger responded that all forms of joint criminal enterprise charged in the indictment were interlinked. "The pursuit of these [three separate] objectives was related to the [initial] objective and overarching joint criminal enterprise to permanently remove Bosnian Muslims [from parts of Bosnia Herzegovina]," said Tieger. "Each of the [three] joint criminal enterprises furthered and were related to the overarching joint criminal enterprise." The discussion - which was held at a meeting between all the parties in court this week - stemmed from a request made by Karadzic for the three separate conspiracies to be removed from the indictment and for him only to be charged with the single "overarching" joint criminal enterprise. "The prosecutor alleges four separate joint criminal enterprises that took place in Bosnia Herzegovina of which the timeframes, the objectives, the members, and Dr Karadzic's alleged role in the joint criminal enterprises significantly overlap," Karadzic wrote to judges on March 19. "Moreover, the prosecutor pleads that these joint criminal enterprises all share the same common purpose." Karadzic has also insisted that charging a defendant with multiple joint criminal enterprises is "unprecedented" at the tribunal. However, Tieger told the court this week that that was not the case. Clarifying the prosecution's indictment, Tieger said that without referring to an "overarching" plan, the prosecution would "misleadingly signal" that the three conspiracies were not all related to one another within a single plan to remove non-Serbs from parts of Bosnia. "The use of the term 'overarching' provides greater clarity about the relationship between the four joint criminal enterprises," said Tieger. Tieger explained further that in referring to an "overarching" plan, prosecutors were trying to establish Karadzic's responsibility for every crime he has been charged with. However, this explanation did not appear to satisfy Judge Bonomy. "That's just a lot of words to me, Mr Tieger," replied the judge, who said prosecutors were required to show the nature of the defendant's involvement in all the alleged crimes. Asked to speak on the matter, Karadzic expressed his concern that charging him with multiple joint criminal enterprises made his case even more complex. "This is going to complicate something which is already very complicated and a voluminous case," he said. He also appeared confident that judges would ask prosecutors to amend the indictment and said that it should be done promptly. "I'm sure that this pre-trial chamber and the appeals chamber will recognise and adhere to all of my requests and it would be much better if the prosecution were to accept your well-intentioned proposals and amend the indictment within a few weeks and not have it arrive in December because then these proceedings will be extended a great deal," he told Judge Bonomy. Following Karadzic's arrest in Belgrade in July 2008, prosecutors submitted an amended indictment on September 22 last year. Although the indictment was confirmed on February 18, 2009, prosecutors were forced to amend it for the third time on February 27. This was because judges would not support a charge for the killing of up to 140 detainees at the Susica prison camp in the Bosnian town of Vlasenica because prosecutors had mistakenly not submitted the necessary evidence. Any amendments requested by judges on the back of Karadzic's March 19 request could result in a fourth indictment being filed. A number of other motions currently before the court, mainly filed by the defendant, were discussed by parties this week as Judge Bonomy seeks to ready the case for trial. The judge rejected Karadzic's request that, on the basis of equality of arms, the prosecution be given the same limitations in its contact with the media as him. The court's registry has allowed Karadzic to conduct an interview with a journalist in The Netherlands via written letter. Among other restrictions, the registry has limited the journalist's questions to 500 words and Karadzic's response to 2,000 words and told the defendant not to make any political statements. "The chamber has carefully considered this and is satisfied that it does not raise an issue of equality of arms," said Judge Bonomy. "Your motion borders on the frivolous." The parties also discussed Karadzic's bid to have the whole case against him dropped because, he alleged, the prosecution abused tribunal procedures. Last month, he said that searches on his relatives' homes in Sarajevo initiated by the prosecution had intimidated potential witnesses in his case and therefore harmed his defence. The prosecution was, in fact, responsible for only one of the searches, on March 27, and has denied accusations of illegal procedure. "The accused's allegations of an abuse of process are baseless and unsupported. His right to a fair trial has not been compromised by the searches, and he has not suffered any prejudice," responded the Office of The Prosecutor, OTP, on April 27. This week, Judge Bonomy wanted to know if the prosecution was able to disclose the documents that police from Bosnia's Serb dominated entity, Republika Srpska, found during their search of Karadzic's sister-in-law's house and handed to OTP in Sarajevo last month. "We do not yet have the materials in house, although I believe their receipt is imminent," said Tieger. "It's rather surprising that they should arrive in your office in Sarajevo on April 21 and be regarded as not urgent. We are [now] another two weeks down the line and we still don't have them," said Judge Bonomy. "I will always be concerned about what appears to be a lack of urgency in this case." Judge Bonomy said that judges would likely rule on the joint criminal enterprise issue and Karadzic's abuse of process motion next week. All parties are scheduled to meet in court again on June 3. 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