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Take care. ______________ Atenciosamente Waldirio msn: waldi...@gmail.com Skype: waldirio Site: www.waldirio.com.br Blog: blog.waldirio.com.br LinkedIn: http://br.linkedin.com/pub/waldirio-pinheiro/22/b21/646 PGP: www.waldirio.com.br/public.html On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:18 PM, <rosario.matt...@accenture.com> wrote: > Hello Waldirio, > > thanks a lot for your exhaustive explanation. Now the overall management > is clear. > > > > Definitely, if I understand well, what I see in my deployment (managing > all the Linux hosts – RHEL, CENTOS, SLES, Debian) is that using Spacewalk I > do not need to install the smart management addon on the RHEL hosts neither > to purchase the Satellite subscription. The difference between a Satellite > or a Spacewalk deployment is just the support on the Management platform > itself. Please, correct me if I’m wrong. > Not only support, there are another points in the product *which you don't have to do manually* and a lot of another benefits, like knowledge base, support 24x7, etc etc etc > > > Regarding > > - With Spacewalk (deployed on a RedHat registered host), will I see only > the Spacewalk server registered on my RedHat Account? > A: Independent of product installed in your rhel, you will be able to see > the server via webUI / customer portal. > > so I can see all the RHEL registered hosts via customer portal. Is it > right? > Nops, as you said, you will see only your RHEL which you have installed the SW, all machines registered on SW will not be visible via webUI / access portal. Will be available via Spacewalk webUI only. > > > Best regards, > > Rosario > > *From:* spacewalk-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:spacewalk-list- > boun...@redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Waldirio Manhães Pinheiro > *Sent:* mercoledì 8 marzo 2017 12:55 > > *To:* spacewalk-list@redhat.com > *Subject:* Re: [Spacewalk-list] RedHat Subscriptions Management deploying > Spacewalk > > > > Hello Rosario > > I'll share another points to you and on sequence I'll answer your > questions. > > Let's imagine the scenario, you have 100 rhel servers and you would like > to register / update all of them, when talking about Satellite, will be > necessary one addon named *smart management* and you have to pay for this > to all your servers although when talking about SW this one come with the > project, then, will be possible to you register 100 rhel's in your SW > without problem, on this scenario you will be compliance., now let's > imagine, you have 100 rhel subscriptions but you will register 200, you can > register one huge number of clients on your SW without problem, but the > point is, if you have 100 rhel subscription, you should register on your SW > only 100, if you need 200, should be necessary by +100 subscriptions. > Technically talking you will not be blocked from SW to register new > clients, this is only one legal term that you need take care, if you read > the contract, you will see, you can use RHN, Satellite or another way to > keep your environment up to date, there isn't restriction BUT the number of > subscription is one limiter. > > That said, you can download your rhel 6.8 or rhel 7.3 packages for > example, create one base channel on your satellite and just upload all > packages, after this will be possible define this base channel to your > client and voilá, you will be able to reach packages from SW. Remember, to > keep erratas up to date, will be necessary do additional steps. To sync > different versions of rhel in your SW will be necessary additional scripts > or diff ways to download and then upload in your SW. > > > > - Without Spacewalk, on my RedHat account I can see all the hosts > registered on RHN belonging to that account. They are supported by RedHat > under the SLA described in the contract service, aren’t they? > > A: Yeap, if you have one subscription with a valid status, sure, you can > just open a new case and Red Hat will help you. > > > - With Spacewalk (deployed on a RedHat registered host), will I see only > the Spacewalk server registered on my RedHat Account? > A: Independent of product installed in your rhel, you will be able to see > the server via webUI / customer portal. > > - How can I manage all other hosts? > A: This management will be via SW > > - Are they under the RedHat support as without the Spacewalk deployment? > > A: As I told you, if you have 100 subsc and you are using SW just to > manager your environments, doesn't matter, you can ask for support to all > of them, now if you need Spacewalk support, this one will not be supported > by Red Hat. > > > > I believe now be clear. :-) > > > > Let me know if you have any additional question. > > > ______________ > Best Regards > Waldirio > msn: waldi...@gmail.com > Skype: waldirio > Site: www.waldirio.com.br > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.waldirio.com.br&d=DwMFaQ&c=eIGjsITfXP_y-DLLX0uEHXJvU8nOHrUK8IrwNKOtkVU&r=IwCprbXurW_UyKCkbPR-2-kq6Zxded3znI-lOKTtI9g&m=644gfS_9K89_zGO_rgMb1_06iScBYINTzTzsgFZB-3s&s=n2-wG22WzsqtSckP5XiUUlHdtyujisrcY9siq_m4EDA&e=> > Blog: blog.waldirio.com.br > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blog.waldirio.com.br&d=DwMFaQ&c=eIGjsITfXP_y-DLLX0uEHXJvU8nOHrUK8IrwNKOtkVU&r=IwCprbXurW_UyKCkbPR-2-kq6Zxded3znI-lOKTtI9g&m=644gfS_9K89_zGO_rgMb1_06iScBYINTzTzsgFZB-3s&s=Uu8ROW-Eeswx4oC6trXkGxtbF4BF-fTgP5_V9lZ7YkQ&e=> > > LinkedIn: http://br.linkedin.com/pub/waldirio-pinheiro/22/b21/646 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__br.linkedin.com_pub_waldirio-2Dpinheiro_22_b21_646&d=DwMFaQ&c=eIGjsITfXP_y-DLLX0uEHXJvU8nOHrUK8IrwNKOtkVU&r=IwCprbXurW_UyKCkbPR-2-kq6Zxded3znI-lOKTtI9g&m=644gfS_9K89_zGO_rgMb1_06iScBYINTzTzsgFZB-3s&s=52C-nGKmUPIuGCnVYoY5Wfp0DYAvM6TVF26K0rtJuyc&e=> > PGP: www.waldirio.com.br/public.html > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.waldirio.com.br_public.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=eIGjsITfXP_y-DLLX0uEHXJvU8nOHrUK8IrwNKOtkVU&r=IwCprbXurW_UyKCkbPR-2-kq6Zxded3znI-lOKTtI9g&m=644gfS_9K89_zGO_rgMb1_06iScBYINTzTzsgFZB-3s&s=y5svQOe-dC602TrQF7AR7ky8pCwYdeP9Xx_79dgIOM4&e=> > > > > On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 7:08 AM, <rosario.matt...@accenture.com> wrote: > > Thank you Waldirio, > > when I say “I’ve the subscriptions for all my RedHat hosts” I mean that > I’ve signed a contract with RedHat in order to be able to register on > RHN/RHMS all the RHEL hosts I provision on my own infrastructure. Nowadays, > not all of those hosts are registered, but the Spacewalk deployment has > been planned to avoid the hosts to go massively on Internet to download > updates. Thus, I’m going to register these hosts on Spacewalk. > > > > From you response I see that technically it’s possible to manage RedHat > hosts via Spacewalk, even if some scripts are needed, but my doubt is about > the management of entitlements. There are two scenario but I don’t know > which is actually the behavior. I’m trying to figure out here a recap > looking for a confirmation: > > > > - Without Spacewalk, on my RedHat account I can see all the hosts > registered on RHN belonging to that account. They are supported by RedHat > under the SLA described in the contract service, aren’t they? > > - With Spacewalk (deployed on a RedHat registered host), will I > see only the Spacewalk server registered on my RedHat Account?How can I > manage all other hosts?Are they under the RedHat support as without the > Spacewalk deployment? > > > > Regards, > > Rosario > > > > > > *From:* spacewalk-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:spacewalk-list- > boun...@redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Waldirio Manhães Pinheiro > *Sent:* mercoledì 8 marzo 2017 05:02 > *To:* spacewalk-list@redhat.com > *Subject:* Re: [Spacewalk-list] RedHat Subscriptions Management deploying > Spacewalk > > > > Hello Rosario, good morning > > > > Well, you can do this configuration for your environment btw I would like > to share some points with you. Using SW you can register your RHEL clients > and manage everything although will be necessary sync the rpm packages / > repositories from Red Hat and add this one on your Satellite. There are > some scripts to do this action or you could create your own scripts, I > believe you can find on our history. > > > > Once you said *I’ve the subscriptions for all my RedHat hosts* I believe > you have *smart management addon* to all your RHEL servers, that's correct > ? If yes, I really recommend you align with your red hat sales just to > check the Satellite subscription. Why ? the answer is simple, using > Satellite, there are a lot of steps that satellite will do for you, like > sync red hat repos and erratas will be *automatically* without necessity to > do manually, when talking about SW, you can do this but will be necessary > implement some or some time a lot of scripts / execute some steps manually. > > > > I wrote one book about SW and there you can find some points about your > questions *http://www.brasport.com.br/informatica-e-tecnologia/ > linux/spacewalk-o-projeto-do-red-hat-satellite/* > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.brasport.com.br_informatica-2De-2Dtecnologia_linux_spacewalk-2Do-2Dprojeto-2Ddo-2Dred-2Dhat-2Dsatellite_-2A&d=DwMFaQ&c=eIGjsITfXP_y-DLLX0uEHXJvU8nOHrUK8IrwNKOtkVU&r=IwCprbXurW_UyKCkbPR-2-kq6Zxded3znI-lOKTtI9g&m=Ud6BE2AbsluXlf6BI-dZAu5txnBGdIurSPSU14jUwIs&s=J9b8Mem9pXp_r9rOcKVUg3ADyh0nqt77yUvSEj6wjfo&e=>, > in one month or less will be available the English version. > > > > Let me know if you have any additional question about it. > > > > > ______________ > Atenciosamente > Waldirio > msn: waldi...@gmail.com > Skype: waldirio > Site: www.waldirio.com.br > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.waldirio.com.br&d=DwMFaQ&c=eIGjsITfXP_y-DLLX0uEHXJvU8nOHrUK8IrwNKOtkVU&r=IwCprbXurW_UyKCkbPR-2-kq6Zxded3znI-lOKTtI9g&m=Ud6BE2AbsluXlf6BI-dZAu5txnBGdIurSPSU14jUwIs&s=GTcfVSqDevCsvMM0TL5U5Z12OWsYaW1FR7iTwqzLQrU&e=> > Blog: blog.waldirio.com.br > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blog.waldirio.com.br&d=DwMFaQ&c=eIGjsITfXP_y-DLLX0uEHXJvU8nOHrUK8IrwNKOtkVU&r=IwCprbXurW_UyKCkbPR-2-kq6Zxded3znI-lOKTtI9g&m=Ud6BE2AbsluXlf6BI-dZAu5txnBGdIurSPSU14jUwIs&s=pZiIq8VwfPadwdu5r65Rq3LDuraDQVlANsVX_kC4G90&e=> > > LinkedIn: http://br.linkedin.com/pub/waldirio-pinheiro/22/b21/646 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__br.linkedin.com_pub_waldirio-2Dpinheiro_22_b21_646&d=DwMFaQ&c=eIGjsITfXP_y-DLLX0uEHXJvU8nOHrUK8IrwNKOtkVU&r=IwCprbXurW_UyKCkbPR-2-kq6Zxded3znI-lOKTtI9g&m=Ud6BE2AbsluXlf6BI-dZAu5txnBGdIurSPSU14jUwIs&s=siqUeULcTS1gTNoPd6ZR5s6J9aKGdE4YUta3dIFyYTs&e=> > PGP: www.waldirio.com.br/public.html > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.waldirio.com.br_public.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=eIGjsITfXP_y-DLLX0uEHXJvU8nOHrUK8IrwNKOtkVU&r=IwCprbXurW_UyKCkbPR-2-kq6Zxded3znI-lOKTtI9g&m=Ud6BE2AbsluXlf6BI-dZAu5txnBGdIurSPSU14jUwIs&s=txpkQDBPMToVhpIthrZoEdgw3sdh2-f57nGFiBzW2Qw&e=> > > > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 2:20 PM, <rosario.matt...@accenture.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I’m trying to configure a Spacewalk server to manage RedHat hosts. I’ve > the subscriptions for all my RedHat hosts, but I don’t know how I can > manage the subscriptions once all the hosts will be registered on the > Spacewalk server rather than the RHN/RHMS. Could someone give me further > details on this? I don’t know if a Satellite subscription is mandatory, > even because I’ll use Spacewalk to manage other Linux distributions too, > such as CentOS, SLES, Debian. > > > > Best regards, > > Rosario > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > privileged, proprietary, or otherwise confidential information. If you have > received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the > original. Any other use of the e-mail by you is prohibited. 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