Hi Jérôme

Bit of an update.....

Firstly, you have to install the "spacewalk-utils" package to get the 
"spacewalk-manage-channel-lifecycle" utility. This is sourced from the 
"spacewalk" repository. Once this is done, you don't seem to get a "man" page 
but the following command provides help and clearly states at least all the 
basic things you need to know:

                # spacewalk-manage-channel-lifecycle -h

Initially, it really does seem to accommodate cloning Dev, Test and Prod repo's 
really well, although further testing is required.

Note: After using the utility to create several cloned repo's I started to see 
"java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space" messages in 
"/var/log/rhn/rhn_taskomatic_daemon.log" In addition, the generation of repo 
metadata, for some of the larger repo's, wasn't completing. There are lots of 
hits about this both in the lists and from Google! After increasing max memory 
for Java, from 512Mb to 4096Mb, I don't seem to be having any more problems 
though:) See this link for further background info:

                
https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E92593_01/E90695/html/swk24-issues-memory.html

Regards
Phil

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Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] Managing Channels/Repositories - Patching Workflow

Hi Phil,

Thank you for sharing your information about your test...
"Spacewalk-manage-channel-lifecycle" sounds very interesting. I'll also do some 
tests and give you feedback.
I'm very interested in the results of the re-sync because that is actually the 
most important thing.

Best regards,
Jérôme



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Hi Jérôme

Thanks for your feedback. I've read that "spacewalk-clone-by-date" gives some 
unexpected results, really doesn't sound very reliable or therefore, of much 
interest to me!

I've started some testing of "spacewalk-manage-channel-lifecycle" and, 
initially, that seems to be giving more consistent results. As the name 
suggests, maybe it's more likely to manage a dev/test/prod lifecycle/workflow 
better? It seems to just capture the state of the source channel as opposed to 
copying every package, from the related repo, in to new repo's each time. This 
makes me think that you'd have to ensure the source repo's were retained while 
dev/test/prod clones were still referencing it but far less disk space is 
required. I'm waiting to see what happens when the source is re-synced and more 
packages are added to it, as I wouldn't want the clone repo's to get any 
updated packages as well!

Regards
Phil


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Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] Managing Channels/Repositories - Patching Workflow

Hi Phil,

I'm using the spacewalk-clone-by-date command and there's my point of view and 
experience.
I've created three channels: dev,test and prod with spacewalk-clone-by-date. 
Each month in a specific date I resync these three channels with the same 
commands. In this process errata will be synchronized with their dependencies.
All was perfect until I notice that not all packages will be added. By example 
new package version but not an errata will not be updated. At the end, the 
channels hasn't the same packages number has it's parents.
I'll perhaps make some test with other commands but if you do any more tests on 
your side, I'll be interested in your results.
Unfortunately I didn't any more informations on web regarding this problematic.

Regards,
Jérôme

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Subject: [Spacewalk-list] Managing Channels/Repositories - Patching Workflow

Hi all

I've recently built a SW 2.8 environment, added Channels/Repositories for 
RHEL/Oracle Linux 6/7 and successfully patched relevant client systems. I now 
want to know how people are managing their patching workflow - at this point in 
time I just want to ensure the same group of patches are applied to Dev, Test 
and Production after sufficient testing has been performed. If I never re-sync 
these repositories obviously they'll remain static and could be used for the 
whole workflow. However, other service areas may want their environments 
patched at different times with additional patches. I guess I could just create 
similar Channels/Repositories, at a later time, but that would be time 
consuming and need more disk space. I've seen references to cloning using 
WebUI, spacecmd -- softwarechannel_clone, spacewalk-clone-by-date or 
spacewalk-manage-channel-lifecycle and can research these further but just 
wondering what people have found to be the easiest and most reliable solution 
really?

Regards
Phil

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