Tuesday, May 4, 2004, 9:42:14 AM, Marc wrote:

MP> For what it is worth - I support it. I definitely want to block
MP> exposure to fraud of my users.

Agreed.  The Phishing SURBL sounds like a good idea to me.
I see no conflict with a company doing commercial work also offering a
public service.

Bob Menschel

MP> Jeff Chan wrote:

>>David Hooton of Platform Networks has been converting the
>>proprietary SpamAssassin message content filtering rules of
>>MailSecurity.net.au into SURBLs.  The data's being organized into
>>separate SURBLs, for example pharma, phishing, and other spams.
>>In order to give something back to the SURBL/SA community and the
>>Internet in general, he is proposing to make the phishing data
>>freely available for potential inclusion by Bill Stearns in
>>ws.surbl.org. 
>>
>>Access to the other lists would be sold commercially, but the
>>phishing data would be a potentially useful spam/fraud/crime
>>fighting tool to make available to everyone, while hopefully
>>creating some recognition for their other lists.  A preliminary
>>web page describing the phishing list is at:
>>
>>  http://www.mailsecurity.net.au/phish/
>>
>>Dave describes the status of the phishing list as public in that:
>>"We're going to release our phishing attack list publicly and it
>>will remain that way for the duration of it's life.  The only
>>attachment to my business will be that we use it as well & that
>>it will be maintained by my staff."  The site will get a phishing
>>spam form added for public submissions before it goes live.
>>Their phishing data sources include spamtraps and feeds from
>>other organizations.
>>
>>Dave asked me to bring up this idea for some discussion and
>>feedback, and he's on these lists so feel free to reply here.
>>
>>How do people feel about adding this data to a public SURBL?
>>Does this kind of division of free and commercial uses seem
>>ok?  Would any of the SURBL public name servers have any
>>issues with an arrangement like this?
>>
>>Jeff C.



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