>>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Daniel> Apache postmaster, It looks like the -owner alias is not
    Daniel> rewriting the return-path, so this is causing an SPF
    Daniel> failure at the ISP of one of the owners of the
    Daniel> spamassassin-users mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  The
    Daniel> Return-Path: header is not being rewritten as it should be
    Daniel> (perhaps with the same address that was used in the MAIL
    Daniel> FROM).  See http://spf.pobox.com/faq.html

According to RFC2821, Return-Path is only added when doing final
delivery.  What has happenened is that the MTA at apache.org has (not
unreasonably) added a Return-Path header when delivering the message
to the list processor.

It would be completely wrong for the list to send the mail out with a
Return-Path of owner-spamassassin-users; that header would only be
added when the MTA at gmx.net performs final delivery.

RFC2821 says that a message SHOULD NOT be sent containing a
Return-Path header.  So what the list processing software should
ideally have done is removed the existing Return-Path header prior to
resending.  But since it is a SHOULD NOT rather than a MUST NOT, the
list processor is within its rights to behave as it does.

    Daniel> SpamAssassin guys, our code didn't flag this as an SPF
    Daniel> failure.  Maybe it should have.

SpamAssassin did the right thing here, it seems.  The SPF checker at
gmx.com did the wrong thing.  This should probably be raised on
the SPF list.

        -roy

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