Users shouldn't be running their own smpt server on a DUL.  That's why they are 
listed.  If they used their ISP's smtp host like they are supposed then it 
would be an issue.  Users on DULs shouldn't even run their own smtp server 
since they can't even keep their systems patched and maintain sufficient virus 
defs.  

As for your example, all the other guys are labeling it as open proxy/open 
relay.  Sorbs has a DUL database and since it's DUL, it goes in their DUL 
database and their open-relay database.  So if 6 RBLS have it as an open-relay 
then you can bet that it probably is.  You could test it openness if you don't 
believe them


-----Original Message-----
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Benecke
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lost of FPs because of IPs listed in DUL + "open Proxy"

Hi,

this seems to be an emerging problem with some RBLs (e.g. SORBS). There are 
seemingly lots of dialup IPs listed in SORBS 'open proxy' and 'open relay'
database, which belong to dialup users. Those users may once have had an 
insecure machine or a virus, but now completely DIFFERENT users get punished 
just because they happen to have received the listed dynamic IP from their ISP.

I rely on RBls quite heavily (about 50% of my mail input is blocked by RBLs, 
and lots of SPAM that did not come directly via is scored based on RBL 
information), but I begin having my doubts.


IMHO dialup IPs should not be listed in "open proxy" or "open relay" RBLs for 
months (as the case with e.g. http://openrbl.org/#213.39.202.12)

Any ideas?



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