After checking some things, I've noticed what the problem is.  When
SpamAssassin flags the message as spam it trashes that old message and
recreates a new one with the report on the front, the spam attached, etc. 
And brand new set of headers.  what is lost is all of the custom X-type
headers and group headers, etc.  In addition I can't take a look at a FP
and see what recieveds, etc it had on it to track down SORBS and other
Blacklist hits, all that info is lost in the recreation of the headers.

I would like to suggest that when SA recreates the new positive spam
email, it keeps all custom headers (non-RFC) like List-ID, anything with
an X, etc.  Or possibly prepend it with Orig- prefix or something.  This
will allow me to filter my mailling lists to my mailling lists folders
before it hits trashes into my spam folder on a false positive.

the other thing I would like to suggest is that the original headers be
available in a non-modified state.  Either appended to the original
message or prepended as long as the snippet part of the report email is
smart enough to skip the headers.  I think prepended would be preferrable. 
Or if it is more easily implemented, add the original headers as a
seperate Test/Plain section or addtional attachment.  this would allows
us to better track down and adjust for false positives.


Bryan Britt
Beltane Web Services


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----------------------- Original Message -----------------------
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:35:36 -0600, Bryan Britt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In trying to figure out why my mail client dumped his message to my spam
> filter (as the last rule) instead of to the list folder (which is above
> it) it brought up a question.   I'm filtering the list based on List-ID:
> header.   But in his post the list headers were all stripped.  there are
> no other recieveds, etc?  I'm just running procmail and SA....  no other
> programs in the chain?
> 
> 
> 
> Received: from localhost
>  by equinox
>  with SpamAssassin (2.63 2004-01-11);
>  Fri, 20 Feb 2004 03:30:39 -0600
> From: Alexander Galitski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SPAM 995.70/05.00] spamc not seeing razor/pyzor/dcc while 
> spamassassin does
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:30:36 +0300
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Spam-Flag: YES
> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on equinox
> X-Spam-Level: **************************************************
> X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=995.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GTUBE, 
> J_CHICKENPOX_45 autolearn=no version=2.63
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_4035D3BF.502C4C66"
> Status:   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bryan Britt
> Beltane Web Services
> 
> 
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ICQ: 53037451
> Bryan L. Britt                                        501-327-8558
> Beltane Web Services, Conway, AR            http://www.beltane.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~Support Private Communications on the Internet~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------- Original Message -----------------------
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:18:57 -0500, Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > At 10:00 AM 2/20/2004, Alexander Galitski wrote:
> > 
> > >   sorry for my stupid fault ... very unclever ((
> > >
> > >   isn't list protected from such user faults??
> > 
> > IMO it's not a fault to post a GTUBE string to the list.. So there's no 
> > protection needed.
> > 
> > I got the message just fine... ok, it did have a high-score, and it did get 
> > subject-tagged, but it got here none the less and was placed in my 
> > spamassassin folder by my mail client.
> > 
> > Quite frankly, it's a fault to not expect a message posted to the list 
> > containing GTUBE...


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