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Tim Philip writes: > Query bl.spamcop.net - 209.237.227.199 209.237.227.199 is > hermes.apache.org > > Since SpamCop started counting, this system has been reported less > than 10 times by less than 10 users. It has been sending mail > consistently for at least 15.6 days. In the past 15.0 days, it has > been listed once for a total of 3 hours > > In the past week, this system has: Been reported as a source of spam > less than 10 times Been witnessed sending mail about 3690 times > > Of note is "In the past 15.0 days, it has been listed once for a total > of 3 hours". It seems that Spamcop users have a propensity to report > anything as spam and the Spamcop BL uses these reports to blacklist all > sorts of systems. Yes. > Is it wise to block based on the Spamcop BL? No, definitely not. > I find the Spamcop BL gives quite a few FPs so its hard to use it for > more than just a small amount of SA scoring - currently at 0.75. Yes. > Does 209.237.227.199 deliver more mailing lists than just SATALK? If not > does this mean that people who get SATALK report it as spam to Spamcop? I think it delivers all the ASF's (fully closed-loop opt-in) lists. Spamcop's BL is *waaaay* too hair-trigger, and FPs very frequently, so blocking based on it is the recipient's problem, not Apache's. (we can use it in SpamAssassin as part of a scoring system; generally that works OK. but *blocking* based on it is a terrible idea.) - --j. > >From: Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: SATALK on spamcop??? Was: ezmlm warning > >Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:11:23 -0400 > > > >My server is rejecting some of the posts due to spamcop?? Anyone else > >getting this? > > > >Also I'm being Joe Jobbed by a spammer over the weekend. Yeah me! :) > > > >You can see my server messege at the bottom...... > > > >--Chris > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 6:52 AM > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: ezmlm warning > > > > > > > > >Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. > > > > > > > > >Messages to you from the spamassassin-users mailing list seem to > > >have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce > > >message I received. > > > > > >If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the > > >probe bounces, > > >I will remove your address from the spamassassin-users mailing list, > > >without further notice. > > > > > > > > >I've kept a list of which messages from the spamassassin-users > > >mailing list have > > >bounced from your address. > > > > > >Copies of these messages may be in the archive. > > >To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), > > >send an empty message to: > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages, > > >send an empty message to: > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Here are the message numbers: > > > > > > *snip a BUNCH* > > >--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received. > > > > > >Return-Path: <> > > >Received: (qmail 38071 invoked for bounce); 12 May 2004 17:41:30 -0000 > > >Date: 12 May 2004 17:41:30 -0000 > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: failure notice > > > > > >Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org. > > >I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the > > >following addresses. > > >This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >204.x.x.x does not like recipient. > > >Remote host said: 553 5.3.0 > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... spamcop.net Please email > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Giving up on 204.x.x.x. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh CVS iD8DBQFAs4HEQTcbUG5Y7woRAtT6AKCLrSINdICUJfYULmyXU/LfeUXw7QCdHfHm inyHgk74BDTlecEd/R2EhzE= =X5JR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
