Thanks, Sam. I like your way of thinking. :)

Sam Clippinger wrote:
> I did some Googling today and found this:
>     http://www.phishtank.com/stats/2008/07/
> Apparently, in July of this year, phishtank.com verified more phishing 
> scams targeting PayPal than the rest of the top 10 targets combined.  
> That pretty impressive, although I must take it with a grain of salt 
> because I don't know anything about phishtank.com or how they collect 
> their stats.
> 
> Anecdotally, I personally see a lot of PayPal scam emails and 
> SpamAssassin seems to catch all of them.  However, most of my users are 
> not technically literate, nor are they sufficiently skeptical when it 
> comes to official-looking messages.  Given the seriousness of falling 
> victim to a phishing scam, I would love to block those messages 
> entirely.  If DKIM could stop them once and for all, it would be worth 
> the effort.
> 
> Here's another way to think about it: spamdyke already does pretty much 
> everything _I_ need it to do.  At this point, I continue working on it 
> because it's a hobby and I enjoy it.  So even though I have a 
> prioritized TODO list, I'm willing to reshuffle it if even one person 
> expresses a need/desire for something.  That's why I'm working on 
> recipient validation now -- it's not something I really need for myself 
> but everyone was asking for it so...
> 
> If there's a feature you'd rather see in spamdyke before DKIM, now's the 
> time to speak up. :)
> 
> -- Sam Clippinger
> 
> Arthur Girardi wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>>   
>>> I disagree about waiting for a certain (or uncertain) percentage of servers
>>> in a survey before implementing it though. This isn't a feature about
>>> convenience or annoyance, it's a feature that will probably have a big
>>> positive impact on some peoples lives. I think the fact that PayPal and eBay
>>> have already implemented it (months ago) is a strong indicator of its
>>> importance. I'd like to know which other major banking institutions have
>>> implemented it, but I don't. I expect that Chase and BofA will be doing so
>>> as soon as they can though (based on the phishing emails I've seen).
>>>
>>> Perhaps we can agree to disagree on this one. And like I said, I could be
>>> wrong (again). ;)
>>>     
>> Maybe I expressed myself incorrectly. Sure 15-20% is a wild guess of  
>> mine, who serves a not so critical slice of the market, and I try to  
>> keep things stable, avoiding adding too many tools that I don't  
>> consider essential.
>>
>> Surely big companies which work with any kind of eletronic commerce or  
>> online payment systems, like the ones you quoted, or any company that  
>> deals with money in a eletronic way, will always attemp to or  
>> implement these edge security enhancements, and well justified. But  
>> aside these cases, I hardly see a real purpose for the majority of  
>> small business people to enter this bloody jungle, other than for  
>> testing.
>>
>> In reality, I'm just ranting because I didn't see the major brazilian  
>> banks which also suffer from lots of of pishing, implementing these  
>> tools. Once they do (if the do), and depending on the speed they do,  
>> and also on the result of their work, that will surely have an impact  
>> on my business and consequentially on my decision of implementing it  
>> for myself.
>>
>> But one thing is for sure, either way, I (with the viewpoint of small  
>> business hosting provider) will refrain for now from implement  
>> anything like that unless someone puts up a nice tool with lots of  
>> log-spitting like what spamdyke does. :)
>>
>> Arthur
>>
>>
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