Hi Jimmy,

You are right, the appended index no. is indeed interfering. It's now
working and i think all the associated files
(.mzXML ; .mgf ; .dat ; .tgz ; .pep.xml) should all have the same
filenames. It's not sufficient just to ensure that the filepaths are
consistent. I don't know how the tgz file works but apparently, when i
renamed the .tgz and .pep.xml files to the same filenames as the mgf
and mzXML and .dat files, everything clicked.

Thanks a million for your help!


Bernt

On Jul 11, 2:35 am, Jimmy Eng <j...@systemsbiology.org> wrote:
> Bernt,
>
> If the index number is attached to the filename and somehow carried
> through to the pep.xml file and URL link, that would be a problem.  Make
> sure that's not the case.
>
> The data to generate the spectral display typically comes from the mzXML
> so just make sure the base_names in the resulting pep.xml files match up
> to the full path mzXML file names (without the .mzXML extension).
>
> If you checked everything and the appended index number somehow isn't
> part of the spectral display URL, reply with the value of one URL and
> list the full path name of the corresponding mzXML file.  For the URL,
> the important bit is just the value of Dta="???".
>
> - Jimmy
>
> Bernt wrote:
> > Hi Jimmy, David,
>
> > Thanks for the advice, I tried removing the .raw and .d from the
> > extensions and changed all occurrences of the extensions in
> > the .tandem files accordingly. It worked. They must be interfering
> > with the file string recognition.
>
> > Yet when I tried the same thing for Mascot .dat files converted to
> > pep.xml (I removed the .mgf extension and even the ".d" hex string in
> > the .dat files) but it doesn't work (the url points to the
> > generated .tgz file, but I can't view it). I have gotten rid of all
> > symbols in the file names including "_" and then manually traced the
> > connections all the way to the mzXML files, and everything seems in
> > order. The last thing i can think of is the length of the filename
> > (Mascot search generates an index no. (e.g F065672 and attaches to the
> > filename). Do you think there might be something else I have missed
> > out?
>
> > Bernt
>
> > On Jul 7, 2:22 am, Jimmy Eng <j...@systemsbiology.org> wrote:
> >> Bernt,
>
> >> The good news is that you shouldn't need to re-run Tandem searches to
> >> address this problem.
>
> >> The easiest way that I can think of to help you is to show you the
> >> convention of file names, base_name attributes, and paths that the tools
> >> typically expect/generate.
>
> >> directory of data:
> >>     c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGemRPTD10/
>
> >> file name of one example mzXML:
> >>     c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGemRPTD10/HUOL05B01.mzXML
>
> >> file name of Tandem search:
> >>     c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGemRPTD10/HUOL05B01.xtan.xml
>
> >> file name of corresponding pepXML file:
> >>     c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGemRPTD10/HUOL05B01.pep.xml
>
> >> msms_run_summary base_name attribute in that pepXML file:
> >>     <msms_run_summary base_name="./HUOL05B01"
>
> >> msms_run_summary base_name attribute in the combined/xinteracted
> >> interact.pep.xml file:
> >>     <msms_run_summary
> >> base_name="c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGemRPTD10/HUOL05B01"
>
> >> In your example below, you seem to carry a ".raw.tandem" extension
> >> through everything that's a big part of the problem.  After all the
> >> tools are run and the URL is generated for the spectral viewer, some
> >> part of this extension then is incorrectly expected to be part of the
> >> mzXML file name.
>
> >> Digest the above and see if it helps.  If I were you, in addition to
> >> doing the text replacement (that I presumed you did correctly), I would
> >> rename your Tandem search files (.raw.tandem) based on our convention
> >> above and re-run analysis.  If the spectral viewing still fails, report
> >> back:
> >> - directory data is in
> >> - an example spectrum URL as you did
> >> - full path name of mzXML file for that example spectrum
> >> - msms_run_summary base_name attribute value
> >> - full path name of the pep.xml file
>
> >> And instead of "HUOL05B01.*" in my example above, it's perfectly fine to
> >> have "HUOL05B01.raw.*" if that's how you have things setup.  Just as
> >> long as everything is consistent.  To follow-up on David's reply, I
> >> believe periods (.) in filenames are fine.
>
> >> Good luck.
>
> >> - Jimmy
>
> >> Bernt wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I would like to continue an old thread:
> >>>http://groups.google.com/group/spctools-discuss/browse_thread/thread/...,
> >>> which has already been taken off.
> >>> My problem is similar, but I have tried my best to verify that all the
> >>> places referring to the raw data "path" are consistent, as advised by
> >>> Jimmy in the thread. What I did was: I made a Tandem DB search at one
> >>> folder level (e.g. c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGEmRPTD10/P00158),
> >>> generating a set of .raw.tandem files. But later, for the reason of
> >>> trying to combine 529 mzXML files together from separate folders, I
> >>> moved all the mzXML and associated .raw.tandem files to another folder
> >>> level (c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGEmRPTD10/).
> >>> I know of this spectra viewing problem if the files were relocated, so
> >>> I used a text replacing application to ensure that all .raw.tandem
> >>> and .raw.tandem.params files with the string "c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/
> >>> data/OC/OGEmRPTD10/P00158" were replaced to "c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/
> >>> data/OC/OGEmRPTD10/". Only then I generated the .raw.tandem.pep.xml
> >>> files from the modified .raw.tandem files and then the
> >>> interact.pep.xml file.
> >>> But the error still persists: command "C:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\tar.exe -tzf
> >>> c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGEmRPTD10/
> >>> HUO00159S00168GL05B01.raw.tandem.pep.tgz "*HUO00159S00168GL05B01.raw.
> >>> 0659.0659.3.dta" > /dev/null" failed: Operation not permitted Error -
> >>> cannot read spectrum; tried direct .dta, from mzXML/mzData and
> >>> from .tgz
> >>> Below is an example of a spectra path that I tried to track:
> >>> Spectra URL   =
> >>> &Dta=c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGEmRPTD10/
> >>> HUO00159S00168GL05B01.raw.tandem.pep/HUO00159S00168GL05B01.raw.
> >>> 0660.0660.2.dta&
> >>> Interact.pep.xml file   =
> >>> <interact_summary filename="c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGEmRPTD10/
> >>> OGEmRPTD10_Tandem_interact.pep.xml" directory="C:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/
> >>> data/OC/OGEmRPTD10">
> >>> <inputfile name="HUO00159S00168GL05B01.raw.tandem.pep.xml"/>
> >>> <msms_run_summary base_name="c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGEmRPTD10/
> >>> HUO00159S00168GL05B01.raw.tandem.pep"
> >>> <search_summary base_name="c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/OGEmRPTD10/
> >>> HUO00159S00168GL05B01.raw.tandem.pep"
> >>> <parameter name="spectrum, path" value="c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/OC/
> >>> OGEmRPTD10/HUO00159S00168GL05B01.raw.mzXML"/>
> >>> HUO00159S00168GL05B01.raw.tandem.pep.xml file   =
> >>>  <parameter name="spectrum, path" value="c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/
> >>> OC/OGEmRPTD10/HUO00159S00168GL05B01.raw.mzXML"/>
> >>> Sorry for this long and unreadable email, but I really don't know what
> >>> else I might have missed out, and I would hate to redo the Tandem
> >>> search for 529 mzXML files. Would really appreciate some suggestions
> >>> and advice. Thanks in advance!
> >>> Bernard

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