David,

Yes I have multiple pepXML files from heavy and light. I tried your suggestion of analyzing them separately, and PTMprophet works on the light pepXML, but with the heavy pepXML, PTMprophet does not finish and it returns many lines that look like this:

WARNING: Illegal peptide with unknown mod: KKQLQDEMLRRV
        WARNING: Unrecognized mod on peptide: GGAPLSPQTHRFM[147]
WARNING: Cannot initialize for sequence: GGAPLSPQTHRFM[147], unknown mods may 
exist in spectrum t02095_A.19205.19205.3
WARNING: Illegal peptide with unknown mod: HDQFKSTLPDADREREA

Warnings similar to the first and last line are reported during PTMprophet of 
the light pepXML, but warnings like the middle two only occurred with the heavy 
pepXML.

Thanks for your help,
Jesse



On 12/15/2014 2:47 PM, David Shteynberg wrote:
Hi Jesse,

I am not certain I fully understand the issue, but it sounds to me like you have multiple searches and should therefore have multiple pepXML files (from you heavy and light). I would suggest you modify your pipeline slightly by analyzing the heavy and the light searches separately and combining them only after PTMProphet has processed the results. Is this feasible?

Thanks,
-David

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Jesse <jgme...@ucsd.edu <mailto:jgme...@ucsd.edu>> wrote:

    David,

    I think I need to have some modifications added to the TPP code
    for PTMprophet to work.  I trying to combine two database searches
    that specify either fixed light lysine or fixed heavy lysine
    (+8.0142), both with variable modification of diGlycine
    (+114.0429).  Therefore, lysine in my datasets is found modified
    with +8.0142, +114.0429, or +122.0572.  If you add these to TPP,
    will I be able to combine these searches and validate the mods
    with PTMprophet?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thank you,
    Jesse

    On 8/12/2014 1:16 PM, David Shteynberg wrote:

        You need to only enter the variable mods for PTMProphet.  However,
        mods that are unknown will not be recognized without a change
        to the
        code.  A future version of PTMProphet will hopefully correct these
        issues.

        -David

        On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Jesse Meyer
        <superhasht...@gmail.com <mailto:superhasht...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            I am also getting this error with a peptide containing a
            fixed modification
            of cysteine (N-ethylmaleimide +125.047679).  I am running
            PTMprophet to
            localize a different variable modification on lysine.   Do
            I need to enter
            all mods including fixed mods under PTMprophet in the
            Petunia GUI?

            Thanks,
            Jesse


            On Saturday, July 12, 2014 7:13:57 AM UTC-7,
            2kl...@gmail.com <mailto:2kl...@gmail.com> wrote:

                Sure. Let me know what you need and I will send you
                the data.
                Best,
                Oded

                On Saturday, July 12, 2014 5:11:39 AM UTC+10, David
                Shteynberg wrote:

                    Hi Oded,


                    It is likely there is an issue with PTMProphet
                    that doesn't recognize
                    the modifications in your dataset.  If you can
                    share a portion of your
                    data for testing purposes I can help troubleshoot
                    further.

                    Thank you!
                    -David

                    On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Oded
                    <oded.k...@gmail.com <mailto:oded.k...@gmail.com>>
                    wrote:

                        Hi all,
                        I am using TPP 4.7.1 on Win7 and currently
                        trying to analyze data of
                        dimethylated phosphopeptides searched with
                        X!tandem.
                        The searches were done by using 2 sets of
                        fixed modifications for the
                        Cys
                        alkylation plus light or heavy dimethylation
                        on N-term and K  with STY
                        phosphorylation, Met-Ox and protein N-term
                        acetylation as set as
                        variable
                        modifications.
                        When I try to run PTM prophet (following
                        peptide prophet and iprophet
                        runs)
                        I getting the following error:


                        EXECUTING: run_in
                        c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/Oded/Enzo/Phospho_June2014;
                        c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\PTMProphetParser
                        STY,79.966,C,57.021464,n,34.063117,K,34.063117,M,15.99
                        MZTOL=0.1

                        
c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/Oded/Enzo/Phospho_June2014/interactNative1.ipro.pep.xml
                        interactNative
                        INFO: Writing file interactNative1.ptm.pep.xml ...
                        INFO: Reading file

                        
c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/Oded/Enzo/Phospho_June2014/interactNative1.ipro.pep.xml
                        ...
                        WARNING: Cannot initialize for sequence:
                        n[71]M[147]KDEPRSTNLFMK,
                        unknown
                        mods may exist in spectrum
                        CHH20140618_M1HTiO2_100mM.03738.03738.2
                        WARNING: Cannot initialize for sequence:
                        n[35]K[162]S[167]PAAAR,
                        unknown
                        mods may exist in spectrum
                        CHH20140618_M1HTiO2_100mM.03900.03900.2
                        WARNING: Cannot initialize for sequence:
                        n[35]VPS[167]RHINIGR, unknown
                        mods
                        may exist in spectrum
                        CHH20140618_M1HTiO2_100mM.04358.04358.2
                        WARNING: Cannot initialize for sequence:
                        n[35]EGEEPT[181]VYSDEEEPK[162]DESAR, unknown
                        mods may exist in spectrum
                        CHH20140618_M1HTiO2_100mM.04499.04499.3
                        WARNING: Cannot initialize for sequence:
                        n[35]GTPGPAVR, unknown mods
                        may
                        exist in spectrum
                        CHH20140618_M1HTiO2_100mM.05584.05584.2
                             WARNING: Unrecognized mod on peptide:
                        n[35]SCFESS[167]PDPELK[162]
                             WARNING: Unrecognized mod on peptide:
                        n[35]SCFESS[167]PDPELK[162]
                             WARNING: Unrecognized mod on peptide:
                        n[35]SCFESS[167]PDPELK[162]
                             WARNING: Unrecognized mod on peptide:
                        n[35]SCFESS[167]PDPELK[162]
                             WARNING: Unrecognized mod on peptide:
                        n[35]SCFESS[167]PDPELK[162]
                             WARNING: Unrecognized mod on peptide:
                        n[35]SCFESS[167]PDPELK[162]
                             {this appear 100-200 times}



                        This application has requested the Runtime to
                        terminate it in an
                        unusual
                        way.
                        Please contact the application's support team
                        for more information.

                        command "c:\Inetpub\tpp-bin\PTMProphetParser
                        STY,79.966,C,57.021464,n,34.063117,K,34.063117,M,15.99
                        MZTOL=0.1

                        
c:/Inetpub/wwwroot/ISB/data/Oded/Enzo/Phospho_June2014/interactNative1.ipro.pep.xml
                        interactNative1.ptm.pep.xml" failed: No such
                        process


                        I tried adding both heavy and light
                        dimethylation (+28 and +34 on K and
                        N-term) just light and just heavy (as shown
                        above), the the mass of the
                        DiMet N-term as it appear in the pepXML (+35
                        or +29)  but the error is
                        still
                        the same...
                        Is there a way to sort this?
                        Many thanks,
                        Oded

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