Hello Alastair,

Unless there is a mistake, I think the N15 mass string should be:

 
-mA72.03415R160.10111N116.04293D116.02694C161.0307E130.04259Q130.05858G58.02146H140.05891I114.08406L114.08406K130.09496M132.04049F148.06841P
98.05276S88.03203T102.04768W188.07931Y164.06333V100.06841


See the following post:

https://groups.google.com/g/spctools-discuss/c/O-Ude_j6Nss/m/6Tl2Q-_hAAAJ

However, I am not detecting correct results in your heavy 'H' search
results.  I would start your troubleshooting there, beginning with the
heavy mass of proline.

Sorry this has taken me some time to get to and keep me posted to your
progress.

Cheers,
-David






On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 2:49 AM 'Alastair Skeffington' via spctools-discuss
<spctools-discuss@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Did you manage to grab the data before the link expired?
>
> Thanks,
> Alastair
>
> On Monday, 17 August 2020 at 21:23:55 UTC+2 Alastair Skeffington wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Ah sorry - my mistake. Here's a new link with a tarball including the
>> mxXML files.
>>
>> https://we.tl/t-UnX74n4qod
>>
>> Many thanks!
>> Alastair
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 17 August 2020 20:51:54 UTC+2, David Shteynberg wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Alastair,
>>>
>>> I downloaded the file you shared with me, however, there were no mzML
>>> files to match the pepXML files so I couldn't actually try the analysis.
>>>  I will make another attempt if you can provide the mass spec data.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -David
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:21 AM 'Alastair Skeffington' via
>>> spctools-discuss <spctools...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> The link to the data has now expired, Let me know if you are still
>>>> willing to have a look and I can send it again.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise maybe you could briefly describe the process you would go
>>>> through?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Alastair
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:17:00 UTC+2, Alastair Skeffington wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for your reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> So it any peptides with modifications will simply be ignored for
>>>>> quantification and I can ignore the warning message?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes - each search was either light or heavy as defined in the static
>>>>> modifications.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the -r parameter is then the window to search in the RT dimension?
>>>>> Because the command line option says 'range around precursor m/z to search
>>>>> for peak' I assumed this was for the m/z dimension. I thought that the
>>>>> shift of the peak would also mostly be in the m/z dimension - but I'm no
>>>>> mass spectrometrist!
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be amazing if you had a moment to have a look at the data -
>>>>> thanks very much for offering. I've put two example pairs of files here:
>>>>> https://we.tl/t-cVDD1MVDOr
>>>>>
>>>>> For each sample there is a light 'L' version of the search results and
>>>>> a heavy 'H' version. I've also included the search database (based on some
>>>>> PacBio data some I'm afraid it's quite big with a lot of isoforms).
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> Alastair
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, 5 August 2020 20:37:16 UTC+2, David Shteynberg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Alastair,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your search results are either all heavy or all light (not
>>>>>> variable mod searched) then you should also use option -S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1). You cannot specify anything but single amino acids in this
>>>>>> string.  Your quantitation will be based on peptides without PTMs in this
>>>>>> dataset.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2). -r8 is a MUCH too wide window to recover the MS1 signal in
>>>>>> RTspace.  The lower this number the more selective the tool is at 
>>>>>> isolating
>>>>>> your target signal.  With -r8 you will not be quantifying the correct
>>>>>> signal, unless you have a very bare sample.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are able to share this data I can try running it to help you
>>>>>> optimize your settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 11:02 AM 'Alastair Skeffington' via
>>>>>> spctools-discuss <spctools...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm trying to run a 14N/15N labelling experiment through ASAPRatio.
>>>>>>> I've been running the first steps like this - here for the results of a
>>>>>>> database search with heavy masses:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> InteractParser sample_interact.pep.xml sample.pep.xml
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PeptideProphetParser sample_interact.pep.xml
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RefreshParser sample_interact.pep.xml
>>>>>>> ./EhuxAllproteins_MCC_decoy.fasta
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ASAPRatioPeptideParser sample_interact.pep.xml
>>>>>>> -lACDEFGHIKLMNPQRSTVWY -r8
>>>>>>> -mA72.0779R160.1857N116.1026D116.0874C104.1429E130.1140Q130.1292G58.0513H140.1393I114.1576L114.1576K130.1723M132.1961F148.1739P99.1152S89.0773T102.1038W188.0793Y164.0633V101.1311
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At this point I get a warning:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WARNING: Found more than one variable mod on 'M'. Please make sure
>>>>>>> to specify a heavy mass for this residue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I have two questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) How do I specify the heavy mass for oxidised methionine? Mox ?
>>>>>>> And is phosphorylated serine coded Sp ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) I've used -r8 instead of the default 0.5. My reasoning is that a
>>>>>>> medium sized heavy peptide could easily differ from the 14N counterpart 
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> 16 Da. Assuming charge +2, then using a m/z range of 8. Does this sound
>>>>>>> remotely sensible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>>>> Alastair
>>>>>>>
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