Hey Adam,
Thanks for the insight!  I know, as Dick described, there was a design
decision made in terms of enabling payloads larger than 2Kb within
OpenID Authentication requests and responses.  With that said, there are
other approaches, such as using GET requests and including a token to
retrieve more data via OpenID DTP as a back-channel request.  So lots to
think about...

--David

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Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:25 PM
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Subject: OpenID Auth 2.0 and user-agent neutrality (or, OpenID with
REST/SOAP)

I've been tracking OpenID auth from 1.0 with great interest.  Last
summer Johannes Ernst explained to me how it was that one might use
openid to authenticate a non-interactive user agent such as a REST API
consumer by intercepting the RP's redirect and providing the info from
the IdP itself.  Given OpenID's design goals (decentralized,
lightweight, flexible identity management), and its seemingly inevitable
adoption into the mashup-minded web 2.0 ecosystem (God help me I'm
buzzwording!), it seems to me that OpenID's value is significantly
enhanced if the identities it enables can be used to authenticate to
SOAP and REST APIs as well as interactive web sites.

Having said that, I was surprised to note in draft 10 of OpenID Auth 2.0
that the HTTP redirect method of communication between the RP and the
IdP is deprecated in favor of an HTML forms-based approach.  This
suggests to me that OpenID Auth 2.0 is not compatible with REST or SOAP
or any other binding that doesn't involve the exchange, parsing, and
submission of HTML forms.

I'm curious why this decision was made, and if its implications have
been fully considered.  Has there been any thought given to an
alternative means of authentication, perhaps via custom HTTP headers or
some other non-HTML means?  If not, does this mean OpenID is not
intended to support authentication to programmatic APIs?

Thanks,
Adam
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