--- In [email protected], "d_j_salvia" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], giraffeboy13
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking at getting an original 3x3 cube (from the '80s) and 
i was
> > wondering if anyone could give me some advice on it.  I've heard 
that
> > the ones from hungary are the best.  Why?  Also, are the american
> > cubes from the '80s similar to the hungarian cubes?
> > 
> > ~John~
> >
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> What do you mean by "American" cubes? Ideal made some cubes in 
America
> and Logical Games made the "American Cube" before Ideal made any 
cubes.
> I haven't tried to make a speedcube out of either, though 
apparently
> the "American Cube" cam lubed with silicone!
> 
> For speedcubing I rate the cubes:
> 
> 1. Ideal Tiled Deluxe Edition
> Best all around, no other cube comes close. It has adjusting screws
> and is arched underneath the centers - the hard, slick plastic is
> thicker than others and is faster unlubed than all the other cubes
> lubed. It is a bit heavier than other cubes. Rarely pops or locks 
up.
> Takes silicon spray lube very well, but not Rubiks.com lube. No 
need
> for stickers.
> 
> The Rubik's Game/Challenge has Deluxe cubes with peg holes. I takes
> about 5 minutes to get used to the peg holes which can make for 
better
> grip.
> 
> 2. The new cubes from Seven Towns (Rubiks.com, Hasbro, Winning 
Moves
> and Hessport)
> Comes with arched centers, can be ordered with screws as a DIY. 
These
> never pop. Lighter than the Deluxe, it takes rubiks.com lube well.
> Tends to lock up more than the Deluxe. They come with terrible
> stickers. Averages 1 1/2 seconds slower than Deluxe for 30 second 
solve. 
> 
> 3. Ideal cubes circa 1980-1983.
> The ones made in Hungary, England, and Hong Kong are the best. I 
have
> heard that the ones made in Korea are good, too. Avoid the Taiwan-
made
> cubes.  These have adjustable screws, and excellent stickers. Very 
few
> have arches, but the arched version is the lightest official cube.
> Without arches they tend to pop instead of locking up. Averages 2 
1/2
> second slower than the Deluxe for a 30 second solve.
> 
> 4. Rubik's studio cubes. Has the best plastic of cubes made 
nowadays.
> Comes with screws but not arches. Pops quite a lot. Averages nearly
> three second slower than the Deluxe for a 30 second solve. I have't
> used the three I have enough to know the sticker wear.
> 
> 5. Older Hasbro (etc) cube (before 2000) had screws, but not 
arches. A
> friends older Hasbro speedcube is fairly quick, but I have little
> experience with this one. The one I have is terrible.
> 
> 6. Wonderful Puzzler.
> Well made knock-off, came with arches. Never tried to make one 
into a
> speed cube. I don't know if they have screws.
> 
> 7. C*4 cube
> Made by Matchbox in the late 80s, with Rubik's silkouette and
> signature. Lousy plastic. Not a very good cube.
> 
> 8. Mefferts
> These are terrible because they have no pressure and you must stop 
a
> turn with effort. Constantly locks up. Decent plastic, but no 
springs
> or screws.
> 
> There are lots of tiled cubes out there which are terrible, leading
> the list is the "Old Brand Magic Square" (though Stefan likes the
> springs). The only high quality tiled knock-off was called Gyro 
Cube,
> and it has flat centers.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David J

> Hey guys,

I've been wanting to get my hands on an original Deluxe tiled cube 
(or 2) for ages and haven't been able to find any apart from the odd 
sealed ones that come up on ebay an sell for $300 plus! How rare are 
these cubes and what are the centre caps like? 

I've got 2 Game Cubes that are pretty good, the only problem is that 
the centre caps are a pain to take off to adjust the screws. I've 
actually drilled out the peg holes in the caps of one to make for 
quick adjustment (I don't if that would break any competition rules) 
and the screws have a wider thread which makes adjustment a bit 
tedious, but apart from that they are good cubes.

What are the crews in the Deluxe Cubes like David?


Keith.






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