A few days later than usual because I've been having "fun" travelling. Details appeared on identi.ca/mjray and may appear on my website soon. Nothing SPI-related, really. Now, on with the log:-
HIGHLIGHTS [item 1, Opening] <Ganneff> Welcome to today's Software in the Public Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to order. Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found on the web at: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/agenda/2009/2009-01-21.html [item 2, Roll Call] <Maulkin> Neil McGovern <Ganneff> Joerg Jaspert <cdlu> David Graham <Hydroxide> Jimmy Kaplowitz <linuxpoet> Joshua D. Drake <zobel> Martin Zobel-Helas <luk> Luk Claes Known regrets from Michael Schultheiss. Tentative regrets from Bdale Garbee. [item 3, President's Report] <Ganneff> None [item 4, Treasurer's Report] <Ganneff> schultmc - not here, so nothing [item 5, Secretary's report] <Hydroxide> I put a secretary's report in the agenda with various updates. any questions? <Ganneff> the git repo is there now. nothing much more done besides that. [item 6, Outstanding minutes] <Hydroxide> Last meeting's minutes are not yet ready due to me being sick - will have them for next meeting. We have three meeting minutes from before my term as Secretary, generously prepared by zobel. Thank you very much, Martin! Current voting results for "Approve April/May 2008 minutes": Yes: 6, No: 0, Abstain: 1, Missing: 0 () [item 7, Stuff for discussion] Resolution 2009-01-09.jdd.1 - New affiliated project: Helios Initiative (Joshua D. Drake) <linuxpoet> I spoke with SFLC. I received the following: Sounds great, but agree that there are certain considerations for handling these kinds of donations that you need to be careful about. I'll need to do a little bit of research to refresh my memory and could get back to you Wednesday or Thursday. Is that soon enough? From Karen Sandler. I have not heard as of yet. <Hydroxide> sounds like we'll probably be able to approve them in the end but might want to wait until February so we can hear from her? <linuxpoet> I just hate to hold these guys off for another four weeks if we find out tomorrow <Hydroxide> guys, it's easiest to just have an earlier february meeting [item 8, Next board meeting] Hydroxide moves to meet Feb 11th instead, will send reminders. 20:20:56 <Ganneff> *GAVEL* TIMED LOG 20:07:30 <Ganneff> *BANG* 20:07:30 <Ganneff> [item 1, Opening] Welcome to today's Software in the Public Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to order. Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found on the web at: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/agenda/2009/2009-01-21.html 20:07:30 <Ganneff> [item 2, Roll Call] 20:07:30 <Ganneff> Board members, please state your name for the record. As we have nine board members, quorum for today's meeting is six. Guests, please /msg your names to Hydroxide if you wish your attendance to be recorded in the minutes of this meeting. 20:07:30 <Ganneff> Hydroxide: please update us on known and tentative regrets. 20:07:32 <Maulkin> Neil McGovern 20:07:36 <Ganneff> Joerg Jaspert 20:07:36 <cdlu> David Graham 20:07:43 <Hydroxide> Jimmy Kaplowitz 20:07:43 <linuxpoet> Joshua D. Drake 20:07:50 <cdlu> 1 more for quorum 20:07:55 <Hydroxide> known regrets from Michael Schultheiss 20:07:59 <zobel> Martin Zobel-Helas 20:08:01 <Hydroxide> tentative regrets from Bdale Garbee 20:08:07 <cdlu> quorum 20:08:09 <Ganneff> damn you zobel. quorum 20:08:09 <luk> Luk Claes 20:08:17 <Ganneff> [item 3, President's Report] 20:08:17 <Ganneff> None, i think? and no bdale. 20:08:27 <Hydroxide> right. 20:08:37 <Ganneff> [item 4, Treasurer's Report] 20:08:37 <Ganneff> schultmc - not here, so nothing 20:08:48 <Ganneff> [item 5, Secretary's report] 20:08:49 <Ganneff> Hydroxide: your time 20:08:49 <Hydroxide> right. 20:09:02 <Hydroxide> I put a secretary's report in the agenda with various updates. any questions? 20:09:22 <Ganneff> the git repo is there now. 20:09:26 <Ganneff> nothing much more done besides that. 20:09:32 <Hydroxide> ok 20:09:40 <Ganneff> done? 20:09:46 <linuxpoet> done 20:09:52 <Hydroxide> cdlu: the 3/19 meeting minutes link works for me 20:10:00 <Hydroxide> cdlu: it goes to http://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/meeting-minutes/2008/meeting-minutes-2008-03-19.txt/view 20:10:05 <Hydroxide> cdlu: clear your cache maybe 20:10:05 <Ganneff> [item 6, Outstanding minutes] 20:10:06 <Ganneff> Again for Hydroxide. 20:10:31 <cdlu> it works now 20:10:33 <Hydroxide> Last meeting's minutes are not yet ready due to me being sick - will have them for next meeting. We have three meeting minutes from before my term as Secretary, generously prepared by zobel 20:10:37 <Hydroxide> thank you very much, Martin! 20:10:51 <Ganneff> lets vote. :) 20:10:52 <Hydroxide> one of them needs a few additional details to be added later, as per the agenda. 20:11:04 <Hydroxide> (that can be a separate vote, later, but we can approve what's there now) 20:11:18 <Hydroxide> we need three votes or one? 20:11:21 * Maulkin would suggest leaving one that isn't ready yet 20:11:30 <Hydroxide> I can do that too 20:11:33 <Maulkin> Just one? :) 20:11:46 <Hydroxide> the second and third are ready 20:11:54 <Ganneff> anyone against voting on both together? 20:12:00 <cdlu> anyone want to move for separation? :) 20:12:08 * cdlu is prepared to vote in bulk 20:12:11 <zobel> i will try to get the other three ready for next meeting, unless Maulkin will do it. 20:12:14 <linuxpoet> Considering I don't even remember the meeting, I am indifferent 20:12:24 <Ganneff> so lets do them together. 20:12:34 <luk> s/announced announced/announced/ for the May one 20:12:48 <Hydroxide> Voting started, 7 people (linuxpoet,luk,ganneff,hydroxide,maulkin,cdlu,zobel) allowed to vote on Approve April/May 2008 minutes. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 20:12:58 <zobel> linuxpoet: we could also move the vote and i will add the logs of those meetings to the minutes, 20:13:01 <Ganneff> !vote yes 20:13:02 <cdlu> !vote yes 20:13:06 <Hydroxide> !vote yes 20:13:13 <linuxpoet> !vote abstain 20:13:18 <Maulkin> !vote yes 20:13:31 <luk> !vote yes (though want the repetition removed ;-)) 20:13:39 <zobel> !vote yes 20:13:40 <Ganneff> luk: only vote, comment seperately. 20:13:44 <Hydroxide> luk: try voting again 20:13:49 <Ganneff> dont confuse the script 20:13:49 <luk> !vote yes 20:13:52 <Hydroxide> luk: I'll fix the typo 20:14:00 <Hydroxide> Current voting results for "Approve April/May 2008 minutes": Yes: 6, No: 0, Abstain: 1, Missing: 0 () 20:14:03 <Hydroxide> Voting for "Approve April/May 2008 minutes" closed. 20:14:04 <Hydroxide> good. 20:14:05 <Ganneff> good. 20:14:10 <Ganneff> thats all we have to vote on here, right? 20:14:18 <Hydroxide> as far as minutes, yes 20:14:26 <Hydroxide> next item is linuxpoet's resolution 20:14:29 <Ganneff> [item 7, Stuff for discussion] 20:14:29 <Ganneff> We seem to have 1 item here, "Resolution 2009-01-09.jdd.1 - New affiliated project: Helios Initiative (Joshua D. Drake)" 20:14:38 <linuxpoet> Right 20:14:43 <linuxpoet> I spoke with SFLC 20:14:45 <Hydroxide> lots of info in the agenda, previously sent to -private a while ago 20:14:52 <linuxpoet> I received the following: 20:15:00 <linuxpoet> Sounds great, but agree that there are certain considerations for handling these kinds of donations that you need to be careful about. 20:15:08 <linuxpoet> I'll need to do a little bit of research to refresh my memory and could get back to you Wednesday or Thursday. Is that soon enough? 20:15:13 <linuxpoet> From Karen Sandler 20:15:16 <linuxpoet> I have not heard as of yet 20:15:36 <Hydroxide> sounds like we'll probably be able to approve them in the end but might want to wait until February so we can hear from her? 20:15:36 <linuxpoet> I suggest we table voting until we have exact procedures required to ensure this will work appropriately 20:15:43 * Maulkin is unhappy on votingfor this without a legal brief 20:15:47 * Hydroxide agrees 20:15:55 <linuxpoet> Only question I have is, do we have to wait until Februrary? 20:15:57 * luk too 20:15:58 <Ganneff> same here. 20:16:06 <linuxpoet> If we get what we need in two days, can we hold an email vote? 20:16:09 <Ganneff> linuxpoet: well. we *can* do email votes, if really needed. 20:16:18 <Maulkin> But it'... interesting 20:16:18 <Hydroxide> linuxpoet: it's easiest. we may want clarifications, etc. and email votes are allowed but need 100% unanimity among all 9 board members under NY law 20:16:24 <Hydroxide> linuxpoet: (despite our bylaws) 20:16:34 <linuxpoet> Ahh so we need consent (same as Oregon law) 20:16:35 <cdlu> the procedure for email votes is arcane, we could always have a conditional vote now 20:16:53 * Hydroxide moves to wait until February on this resolution, pending legal advice from SFLC 20:16:55 <Maulkin> cdlu: wording? 20:16:58 <linuxpoet> I just hate to hold these guys off for another four weeks if we find out tomorrow 20:16:59 <cdlu> we approve helios contingent on nobody bringing up objections following our legal advice, or somesuch 20:17:06 * Ganneff moves for a vote under "its only valid if we get positive feedback from our lawyers" 20:17:26 <luk> linuxpoet: we could also agree to hold the February meeting earlier? :-) 20:17:34 <linuxpoet> True enough 20:17:35 * Hydroxide nods at luk 20:17:46 <linuxpoet> O.k. how about that? 20:17:55 * Hydroxide withdraws his motion 20:17:56 <cdlu> our by-laws allow a special meeting to be called 20:17:59 <cdlu> we could just do that 20:18:04 <linuxpoet> +1 20:18:14 <Maulkin> What notice is needed? 20:18:16 <cdlu> when we get the legal advice, president+secretary call the meeting and off we go. 20:18:19 <cdlu> 2 weeks, like any meeting. 20:18:23 <Hydroxide> guys, it's easiest to just have an earlier february meeting 20:18:26 <Maulkin> That's a while... 20:18:40 <Maulkin> *shrug* 20:18:42 <luk> Maulkin: in 10 days it's February already :-) 20:18:46 <linuxpoet> If we need two weeks, let's just have next meeting first week of Feb 20:18:47 <cdlu> I think conditional approval now is our fastest, easiest, and best bet. 20:18:50 <Ganneff> ok. so this point is done for now, i think? 2 weeks should be ok, and we can move a meeting if need be. 20:19:00 * Maulkin nods at cdlu 20:19:09 <Hydroxide> cdlu: there's also a defect in the resolution 20:19:18 <linuxpoet> There is? 20:19:20 <cdlu> ok, then defer it. I'm not partial. :) 20:19:29 <Hydroxide> cdlu: i.e. it doesn't include the backup liaison that the HeliOS's application email referred to 20:19:36 * Maulkin seconds Hydroxide to defer. 20:19:47 <Hydroxide> Ganneff: let's go on. 20:19:49 * cdlu thinks we have enough unvoted seconds to run us a whole hour 20:19:52 <Ganneff> [item 8, Next board meeting] 20:19:52 <Ganneff> Going with third Wed of months it should be on Wednesday, February 18th, 2009, 20:00 UTC. Unless we screw this later by mail. 20:19:53 <Maulkin> (we can recall it at a special if needed) 20:20:06 * Hydroxide moves to meet Feb 11th instead 20:20:09 <zobel> so no item up for discussion?! :) 20:20:10 <Hydroxide> and not worry about a special 20:20:26 <Hydroxide> any objection to the 11th? 20:20:29 <cdlu> long agenda, short meeting. foolproof. :) 20:20:30 <zobel> Hydroxide: no 20:20:32 <linuxpoet> 11th is beter for me 20:20:35 <cdlu> no objection here, but please send loud obnoxious reminders 20:20:38 <Maulkin> Apologies for me next month. 20:20:39 <Hydroxide> I will. 20:20:39 <linuxpoet> I travelling the week of the 18th 20:20:46 <Hydroxide> 11th going once... 20:20:47 <Ganneff> send reminders, twice. so its the 11th then. 20:20:49 <Hydroxide> twice... 20:20:50 <Hydroxide> good. 20:20:53 <Hydroxide> will send reminders. 20:20:56 <Ganneff> *GAVEL* Hope that helps, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237 _______________________________________________ Spi-general mailing list [email protected] http://lists.spi-inc.org/listinfo/spi-general
