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I, too, sought membership in E2K and was coolly rebuffed.  Confused, I
thought maybe it was because I was American (I travel overseas frequently
and get a lot of chaff for that), but no, they have contributing American
members.  Perhaps because I'm female? It is a male dominated hobby...but,
again, no.  I have been very welcome on this list and other sites, and have
received great help and advice for a newbie to Numbers Stations as well as
DXing in general. Maybe because my cheap little radio doesn't pick up much
more than my microwave oven?
No matter.  I do greatly respect the time and hard work that goes into
producing the E2k newsletter.   I hope that will remain accessible to all
of us.  The bright side is that I have now discovered Priyom!
A. Dugan
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> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:30:24 -0400
> From: Ernie Rice <ranger2...@gmail.com>
> To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations <spooks@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spooks] NS schedules from ENIGMA2000
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> We can no longer look at the sheds anymore? Why?
> Are they classified? I am a casual SWL.credit dye is credit due but to
> deny the skeds is wrong and smacks of censorship
>
> Ernie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 21, 2014, at 12:49, Gian Romani <romanig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe
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> > OK Paul,
> > thanks for your kind reply, I understand the situation. It was a great
> > service for fan like me, and I'm sure a lot of other fan miss that kind
> of
> > useful instrument. Is there any solution for the future?
> > Tnx again, sincerely
> > Naig
> >
> >
> > 2014-07-21 11:34 GMT+02:00 Beaumont, Paul <p.beaum...@imperial.ac.uk>:
> >
> >> Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe
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> >> Good morning Naig,
> >>
> >> One reason schedules are no longer  included is because of wholesale
> >> plagiarism. Those E2k members who construct schedules [including myself]
> >> took umbrage at the manner in which certain persons just took and in
> some
> >> cases reposted as their own work.
> >> The other matter being  those who freely used and never saw fit to
> supply
> >> any of their own loggings for us to use.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately the matter grew to a head and we sadly saw fit to refuse
> >> those who had reasonably asked permission to use and to withdraw their
> >> permitted use from Priyom who had also asked and were given permission.
> >>
> >> This isn't elitism;  we are just protecting the wishes of those who
> >> produced schedules and who saw red at the wholesale abuse we suffered
> from
> >> certain 'non-contributing' members - of which a few more will be removed
> >> soon - and others mentioned above.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Paul
> >> For ENIGMA2000
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd like to know hot to do to obtain the number station schedules from
> >> ENIGMA2000. I remember some months ago it was possible to read it in the
> >> bulletin, while now it is no more included in the bulletin.
> >> Thank you bye
> >> Naig
> >>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:32:39 +0200
> From: Flavio Cardone <fcard...@wp.pl>
> To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations <spooks@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spooks] NS schedules on priyom.org
> Message-ID: <53cd4eb7.5090...@wp.pl>
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> Hello,
>
> @Louis Ciotti
>
> yes, you can find schedules at www.priyom.org - there you can also
> listen to recordings, etc. :-) They are normal people and you can even
> e-mail them and they answer back :-D
>
> And here
>
> http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
>
> you have an online radio put up by a university in Holland, it supports
> 255 users at once, you can tune it, do whatever you want and listen to
> it on a computer. Zero to 30 MHz :-) Actually it also works if you're on
> a mobile phone or tablet.
>
> @Anthony Spinelli -
>
> I too have listened to numbers stations for many years. Let's not kid
> ourselves - this is a hobby and we just have fun.
>
> Proper government agencies record the whole HF spectrum at once and have
> it processed by computers that are more powerful than what we have at home.
>
> "Secrecy" on E2000 reminds me of boys using decoder rings to send up
> secret messages. Cute, but come on... :-D
>
> Now, if we're talking conspiracies, here is a Cardone replying to a
> Ciotti and Spinelli. If *that* is not suspicious... who knows what we're
> really telling each other pretending to be on this list :-D
>
> On 21/07/14 18:53, Louis Ciotti wrote:
> > Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe
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> >
> > Not wanting be be a thread crasher, but  being a new guy like me to SW
> > listening, and with sometimes narrow windows of listening times, is
> > that a reliable schedule posted somewhere that I would be able to use
> > to find some unique broadcasts??
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Gian Romani <romanig...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe
> from this list
> >>
> >> OK Paul,
> >> thanks for your kind reply, I understand the situation. It was a great
> >> service for fan like me, and I'm sure a lot of other fan miss that kind
> of
> >> useful instrument. Is there any solution for the future?
> >> Tnx again, sincerely
> >> Naig
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-07-21 11:34 GMT+02:00 Beaumont, Paul <p.beaum...@imperial.ac.uk>:
> >>
> >>> Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe
> from
> >>> this list
> >>>
> >>> Good morning Naig,
> >>>
> >>> One reason schedules are no longer  included is because of wholesale
> >>> plagiarism. Those E2k members who construct schedules [including
> myself]
> >>> took umbrage at the manner in which certain persons just took and in
> some
> >>> cases reposted as their own work.
> >>> The other matter being  those who freely used and never saw fit to
> supply
> >>> any of their own loggings for us to use.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately the matter grew to a head and we sadly saw fit to refuse
> >>> those who had reasonably asked permission to use and to withdraw their
> >>> permitted use from Priyom who had also asked and were given permission.
> >>>
> >>> This isn't elitism;  we are just protecting the wishes of those who
> >>> produced schedules and who saw red at the wholesale abuse we suffered
> from
> >>> certain 'non-contributing' members - of which a few more will be
> removed
> >>> soon - and others mentioned above.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Paul
> >>> For ENIGMA2000
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to know hot to do to obtain the number station schedules from
> >>> ENIGMA2000. I remember some months ago it was possible to read it in
> the
> >>> bulletin, while now it is no more included in the bulletin.
> >>> Thank you bye
> >>> Naig
> >>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:42:16 +0200
> From: Gian Romani <romanig...@gmail.com>
> To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations <spooks@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spooks] NS schedules from ENIGMA2000
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>
> Many tnx Tomas!!!!!!
>
>
>
> 2014-07-21 19:15 GMT+02:00 Tom?? Hetmer <t...@hetmer.cz>:
>
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> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > since E2k is no longer interested in helping the public with numbers
> > station listening, the only available schedule i'm aware of is
> > maintained by us.
> >
> > http://priyom.org/number-stations/station-schedule.aspx
> > (use the AGENDA view or add it to your Google Calendar)
> >
> > We also typically log and discuss current broadcasts in the IRC chat,
> > where we have an announcement system for next broadcasts set up.
> > (and you can of course participate freely, no invitation needed)
> >
> > Regards
> > Tom?? Hetmer
> >
> > Dne 21.7.2014 18:53, Louis Ciotti napsal(a):
> > > Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe
> > from this list
> > >
> > > Not wanting be be a thread crasher, but  being a new guy like me to SW
> > > listening, and with sometimes narrow windows of listening times, is
> > > that a reliable schedule posted somewhere that I would be able to use
> > > to find some unique broadcasts??
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:56:49 -0800
> From: Todd Dokey <justcallmebu...@gmail.com>
> To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations <spooks@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spooks] NS schedules from ENIGMA2000
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>
> Yeah, too bad.
>
> I have spent lots of time converting various schedules into a database
> that I use to drive my radio.
>
> Have tried for decades to establish some kind of logging standard, and
> am always told it will never work, rather than trying to accomplish
> the task.
>
> It just means their scheds won't get used anymore.
>
> Seems counterproductive to me.
>
>
>
> --
> Semper Reluctor
>
> "War is a country of will, there?s no room for sympathy. If you?re not
> willing to give up everything?You?ve already lost."
>
> -- Chief Dave
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:02:36 +0200
> From: Flavio Cardone <fcard...@wp.pl>
> To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations <spooks@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spooks] NS schedules from ENIGMA2000
> Message-ID: <53cd55bc.9070...@wp.pl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hello,
>
> On 21/07/14 19:30, Ernie Rice wrote:
> > Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe
> from this list
> >
> > We can no longer look at the sheds anymore? Why?
> > Are they classified? I am a casual SWL.credit dye is credit due but to
> deny the skeds is wrong and smacks of censorship
> >
> > Ernie
>
> they wouldn't feel important if other people could look at them :-)
>
> imagine someone sitting on a bench making a tally of how many cars pass
> by, classified by colour. So you approach them and say "can I take a
> look?" and the person answers back "NO! MY LIST! MY SECRET LIST! MY LIST
> IS SECRET!". You just go "m-kay" and think "geez".
>
> They want to have their extra special secret list, let them have it.
> It's the same frequencies that show up here. If something - say - is on
> 12.120 MHz AM, our 12.120 MHz are the same as theirs :-)
>
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jul 21, 2014, at 12:49, Gian Romani <romanig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe
> from this list
> >>
> >> OK Paul,
> >> thanks for your kind reply, I understand the situation. It was a great
> >> service for fan like me, and I'm sure a lot of other fan miss that kind
> of
> >> useful instrument. Is there any solution for the future?
> >> Tnx again, sincerely
> >> Naig
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-07-21 11:34 GMT+02:00 Beaumont, Paul <p.beaum...@imperial.ac.uk>:
> >>
> >>> Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe
> from
> >>> this list
> >>>
> >>> Good morning Naig,
> >>>
> >>> One reason schedules are no longer  included is because of wholesale
> >>> plagiarism. Those E2k members who construct schedules [including
> myself]
> >>> took umbrage at the manner in which certain persons just took and in
> some
> >>> cases reposted as their own work.
> >>> The other matter being  those who freely used and never saw fit to
> supply
> >>> any of their own loggings for us to use.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately the matter grew to a head and we sadly saw fit to refuse
> >>> those who had reasonably asked permission to use and to withdraw their
> >>> permitted use from Priyom who had also asked and were given permission.
> >>>
> >>> This isn't elitism;  we are just protecting the wishes of those who
> >>> produced schedules and who saw red at the wholesale abuse we suffered
> from
> >>> certain 'non-contributing' members - of which a few more will be
> removed
> >>> soon - and others mentioned above.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Paul
> >>> For ENIGMA2000
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to know hot to do to obtain the number station schedules from
> >>> ENIGMA2000. I remember some months ago it was possible to read it in
> the
> >>> bulletin, while now it is no more included in the bulletin.
> >>> Thank you bye
> >>> Naig
> >>>
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