Hi Robert,

Your suggestion looks good to me. In fact, the encapsulation capability 
advertisement part (i.e., using a new sub-TLV of the ISIS capability TLV ) was 
previously contained in the original draft but has been removed before 
submitting it to the IETF as an informational draft. I had planned to submit 
another draft talking about the encapsulation capability advertisement once 
this use case draft is accepted. If the WG consensus is to cover these two 
parts in one doc, it's fine to me.

Best regards,
Xiaohu

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 5:29 PM
To: Xuxiaohu
Cc: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [spring] The rationale of 
draft-xu-spring-islands-connection-over-ip

Hi Xu,

We discussed this work before, however I have a new question ...

It is an informational draft so you relay on proper configuration of RS nodes 
in the islands.

Note that today you may have out of the box SR node supporting IPv4,
IPv6 (say without SR) + MPLS. So you must select your operational default 
encapsulation and very likely such encapsulation will differ per next SR 
destination !

I therefor find it not really practical to recommend manual/i2rs/xml 
configuration and choice of encapsulation on a per SR node basis.

I would therefor advise if there would be architectural consensus to go forward 
with the proposed in the draft idea to turn it into standards track and add a 
flag and encap info in SR advertisement itself indicating that given SR node 
may be reachable say via GRE,
L2TPv3 or VXLAN encaps.

That way your objective is accomplished via full protocol automation with 
minimal need for any per SR src/dst node manual config.

Best,
R.











On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Xuxiaohu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This draft 
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-spring-islands-connection-over-ip-00) 
> describes a use case about interconnecting spring islands over IP networks. 
> The rationale for this draft is as follows:
>
> Suppose LSR A and LSR B are separated by an IP network. Assume LSR A receives 
> from LSR B a label binding L for a given FEC (e.g., one of LSR B's loopback 
> addresses) via T-LDP or L-BGP, when LSR A wants to forward a MPLS packet 
> targeted for that FEC, it could forward that MPLS packet through an IP-based 
> tunnel towards LSR B. In contrast, if LSR A receives the above label binding 
> originated by LSR B via IS-IS or OSPF, it could be looked as if this label 
> binding was learnt from a remote BGP or LDP peer. As such, LSR A could 
> forward the MPLS packet targeted for that FEC over an IP-based tunnel towards 
> LSR B as well.
>
> In fact, one of the claimed advantages of IPv6-SR is that it doesn't require 
> to upgrade all routers in the networks. With the above approach, we can 
> achieve the same effect in the MPLS-SR.
>
> Best regards,
> Xiaohu
>
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