Hi Tarek,

More inline

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From: Tarek Saad (tsaad) [mailto:ts...@cisco.com] 
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To: LITKOWSKI Stephane SCE/IBNF; cbow...@juniper.net
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draft-bowers-spring-adv-per-algorithm-label-blocks-01.txt

Hi,


On 2015-07-21, 5:04 PM, "stephane.litkow...@orange.com"
<stephane.litkow...@orange.com> wrote:

>Hi Tarek,
>
>I think per-prefix granularity is still possible.
>Advertising a SRGB for a particular algorithm does not mean that all 
>the prefixes advertised will be advertised for that particular algorithm.
>
>I mean considering you have a network with node A ,B, C, D, each one 
>advertising a loopback.
>You want to run algo 0 between all routers, so each router advertises a 
>SRGB for algo 0, and loopback address with SID is advertised with Algo 
>0 also.
>Now you want to run algo 2 but only A and B requires communication 
>between each other using algo 2. As C and D may be on the path from A 
>to B, all routers requires supports of algo 2 and a new SRGB is 
>provisioned
[TS]: Yes, if a prefix is to be reachable via alg 2, it¹s understandable every 
other node a will allocate/program label for alg2.

>on all routers corresponding to algo 2. But in term of SID 
>advertisement, you may configure only A and B to advertise Algo2 for 
>Loopback address (Algo is encoded in PrefixSID), so there would be only 
>2 new MPLS
[TS]: quote from draft: "In Option 2 each node advertises a single node index 
and a unique label block for each algorithm. "
1) it is not clear (from proposal) if alg support is to be explicitly enabled 
per prefix, and how? If it is to be explicitly enabled per alg2 for a 
prefix/loopback, wouldn't the overhead be comparable to configuring an index 
per algorithm?
[SLI] IMO, it's implementation dependant.Regarding the overhead, IMO, as a 
service provider, the overhead is different. The overhead in option#1 is in 
managing the unicity of the SID and so a strong requirement of interaction with 
the OSS (for example) to retrieve a unique value => so automation is harder. 
Here it's just another CLI command to add which is generic for all routers, or 
at least no requirement to interact with an external system to retrieve 
informations.

2) also, not clear how a node announces support for multiple algs for same SID 
index value. Is multiple prefix-SID sub-TLVs announced with same SID index and 
for every algorithm it supports? If so, wondering how would a node withdraw 
support for a specific alg?
[SLI] IMO, multiple prefix-SID sub-TLVs are attached to the prefix, one for 
each algorithm (algorithm field changes). If you want to withdraw, remove a 
subTLV.

Regards,
Tarek


>forwarding entries instead of 4.
>
>Does it make sense ?
>
>Stephane
>
>
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>Subject: Re: [spring] New Version Notification for 
>draft-bowers-spring-adv-per-algorithm-label-blocks-01.txt
>
>Hi Chris,
>
>A possible limitation of advertizing per-alg SRGB is that a node will 
>always assign/maintain as many SRGB-alg labels (on possibly all nodes) 
>for a prefix without being able to control this on per-prefix if needed.
>Are there are any considerations for this in your proposal?
>
>Regards,
>Tarek
>
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>Abstract:
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>   based forwarding along shortest paths computed using Dijkstra's
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>   routing to accomplish destination-based forwarding along paths
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