Jeff,
I fully agree with what you say: from my POV restrictions on the number of ECMP 
next hops do not make an SPF less strict.

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Sasha

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From: Jeff Tantsura [mailto:jefftant.i...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:09 PM
To: Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) <sprev...@cisco.com>
Cc: Alexander Vainshtein <alexander.vainsht...@ecitele.com>; spring@ietf.org; 
Chris Bowers <cbow...@juniper.net>
Subject: Re: [spring] meaning of "Strict Shortest Path" algorithm in 
draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-09

Number if ECMP paths is an implementation subject and would differ from 
platform to platform. The way subset of ECMP paths is chosen is local to the 
implementation.
If you limit number of paths/size of ECMP bundle - it doesn't make it less 
SPF-strict as long as SPF(Dijkstra) has been applied to compute.

Regards,
Jeff

On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) 
<sprev...@cisco.com<mailto:sprev...@cisco.com>> wrote:
sorry. What I meant is that if you restrict the number of ecmp path you have 
computed, it is not what the definition of strict-spf is.

IOW, strict-spf means that you forward according to what SPF algorithm has 
computed without applying any sort of constraint/policy/hack.

s.



On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Alexander Vainshtein 
<alexander.vainsht...@ecitele.com<mailto:alexander.vainsht...@ecitele.com>> 
wrote:

Stefano, Chris and all,
I have to admit that I am completely confused:
   - to the best of my understanding, Chris has asked whether a policy that 
puts a limit on max. number of ECMP next hops is not compatible with the Strict 
SPF algorithm
   - Stefano says that "Yes, this policy is a good example when Strict SPF 
algorithm can be advertised".


What do I miss?
Regards,
Sasha

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From: spring [mailto:spring-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stefano Previdi 
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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 12:43 PM
To: Chris Bowers <cbow...@juniper.net<mailto:cbow...@juniper.net>>
Cc: spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [spring] meaning of "Strict Shortest Path" algorithm in 
draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-09


On Sep 14, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Chris Bowers 
<cbow...@juniper.net<mailto:cbow...@juniper.net>> wrote:

SPRING WG,

The current text in draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-09 regarding the
"Strict Shortest Path" algorithm reads as follows.

 o  "Strict Shortest Path": This algorithm mandates that the packet is
    forwarded according to ECMP-aware SPF algorithm and instruct any
    router in the path to ignore any possible local policy overriding
    SPF decision.  The SID advertised with "Strict Shortest Path"
    algorithm ensures that the path the packet is going to take is the
    expected, and not altered, SPF path.

One example of a local policy that overrides the ECMP-aware SPF
algorithm decision is a limit on the number of ECMP next-hops.  The
text above implies that if a router places any limit on the number of
ECMP forwarding next-hops then it would be wrong for it to advertise the 
“Strict Shortest Path” algorithm capability.

Is this the intended interpretation?


well, yes. Your example is a good one for the “strict-SPF” behavior.

s.



If not, what is the intended interpretation?

Thanks,
Chris

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