I agree with Joel, and strongly opposed to the proposal text !

"The value TBD in the Next Header field of an IPv6 header or any extension 
header indicates that the payload content is identified via the segment 
identifier in the IPv6 Destination Address."

It is a hole digging to exclude other possible ways of indication of 'Opaque 
Payload format', for example, use IPv6 Source Address, or use options in EH to 
identify.

As I raise this question in March, I haven't expect the proposal would be so 
tricky! 

Thanks
Jingrong


-----Original Message-----
From: spring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 1:44 AM
To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) <[email protected]>; SPRING WG <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming: NH=59 action 
item closure

1) The way you wrote the text, it would apply to carried IPv4 or carried IPv6.

2) If it is carried Ethernet, us 97.
2') If you insist that you need a new format for carried Ethernet after SRH, 
get a code point for that.

3) If there is some other use case, document it and get a code point for it.  
particularly given that SID meanings may not be registered, removing teh 
ability to tell what the payload is seems a drawback, not a benefit.

Yours,
Joel

On 9/12/2019 1:39 PM, Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) wrote:
> Joel,
> 
> This NH value is to be used when the payload does not contain any Internet 
> Protocol.
> 
> Cheers,
> Pablo.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Joel M. Halpern" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, 12 September 2019 at 19:27
> To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" <[email protected]>, SPRING WG 
> <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming: 
> NH=59 action item closure
> 
>      While that proposal does remove the mis-use of next-header 59, it seems
>      a very odd use.
>      It seems to be an effort to avoid needing to register next-header
>      values.  Why?
>      
>      For example, if what is carried after the SRH is an IPv6 packet then the
>      next header value for IPv6 (41) would seem the appropriate thing to use.
>        That would produce consistent parsing and clarity.
>      
>      Yours,
>      Joel
>      
>      On 9/12/2019 1:01 PM, Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) wrote:
>      > Hi all,
>      >
>      > Following the comments from IETF105, the working group preferred to
>      > allocate a new Next Header value.
>      >
>      > The authors would like to propose this diff. Any feedback is welcome.
>      >
>      > <OLD>
>      >
>      >     9.  IANA Considerations
>      >
>      >        This document requests the following new IANA registries:
>      >
>      > </OLD>
>      >
>      > <NEW>
>      >
>      >     9.  IANA Considerations
>      >
>      > This document requests IANA to allocate a new IP Protocol Number value
>      > for “SRv6 payload” with the following definition:
>      >
>      > The value TBD in the Next Header field of an IPv6 header or any
>      > extension header indicates that the payload content is identified via
>      > the segment identifier in the IPv6 Destination Address.
>      >
>      >        This document requests the following new IANA registries:
>      >
>      > </NEW>
>      >
>      > We would propose to submit a revision with this text on the IANA 
> section
>      > of NET-PGM beginning of next week.
>      >
>      > Thanks,
>      > Pablo.
>      >
>      >
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