Hi Ron,

Thanks for your comments, exactly, BSID MPLS label = CRH value :)

Cheers,
Jeff
On Sep 20, 2019, 11:09 AM -0700, Ron Bonica <[email protected]>, wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> It would be easy enough to add a binding SID to SRv6+. Given customer demand, 
> I would not be averse to adding one.
>
> However, there is another way to get exactly the same behavior on the 
> forwarding plane without adding a new SID type.
>
> Assume that on Node N, we have the following SFIB entry:
>
>
> • SID: 123
> • IPv6 address: 2001:db8::1
> • SID type: prefix SID
>
>
> Now assume that was also have the following route on Node N:
>
> 2001:db8::1 -> SRv6+ tunnel with specified destination address and CRH
>
> This gives you the same forwarding behavior as a binding SID.
>
>                                                            Ron
>
>
>
> Juniper Business Use Only
> From: spring <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:53 PM
> To: Chengli (Cheng Li) <[email protected]>
> Cc: SING Team <[email protected]>; EXT - [email protected] 
> <[email protected]>; SPRING WG List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [spring] A note on CRH and on going testing
>
> There’s number of solutions on the market that extensively use BSID for 
> multi-domain as well as multi-layer signaling.
>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
> On Sep 19, 2019, at 19:49, Chengli (Cheng Li) <[email protected]> wrote:
> > +1.
> >
> > As I mentioned before, Binding SID is not only for shortening SID list.
> > We should see the important part of binding SID in inter-domain routing,  
> > since it hides the details of intra-domain. Security and Privacy are always 
> > important.
> >
> > Since the EH insertion related text will be removed from SRv6 NP draft, I 
> > don’t think anyone will still say we don’t need binding SID.
> > Let’s be honest, Encap mode Binding SID is very useful in inter-domain 
> > routing. It is not secure to share internal info outside a trusted network 
> > domain.
> >
> > Cheng
> >
> >
> > From: spring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bernier, Daniel
> > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:36 PM
> > To: SING Team <[email protected]>
> > Cc: 'SPRING WG List' <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [spring] A note on CRH and on going testing
> >
> > +1
> >
> > This is what we did on our multi-cloud trials.
> >
> > Encap with Binding SID to avoid inter-domain mapping + I don’t need to have 
> > some sort of inter-domain alignment of PSSIs
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On 2019-09-19, 11:18 AM, "spring on behalf of SING Team" 
> > <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > Good to hear that reality experiment :)
> >
> > But is it secure to share internal SID-IP mappings outside a trusted 
> > network domain?
> >
> > Or is there an analogue like Binding SID of SRv6, in SRv6+?
> >
> > Btw, PSSI and PPSI can not do that now, right?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Moonlight Thoughts
> >
> >
> > (mail failure, try to cc to spring again.)
> >
> > On 09/19/2019 17:49, Andrew Alston wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I thought this may be of interest in light of discussions around 
> > deployments and running code - because one of the things we've been testing 
> > is inter-domain traffic steering with CRH on both our DPDK implementation 
> > and another implementation.
> >
> > So - the setup we used last night:
> >
> > 6 systems in a lab - one of which linked to the open internet.  Call these 
> > S1 -> S6
> > 3 systems in a lab on the other side of the world - no peering between the 
> > networks in question.  Call these R1 -> R3
> >
> > We applied a SID list on S1, that steered S1 -> S2 -> S3 -> S6 -> R1 -> R3, 
> > with the relevant mappings from the CRH SID's to the underlying addressing 
> > (S2 had a mapping for the SID for S3, S3 had a mapping for the SID 
> > corresponding to S6, S6 had a mapping for the SID corresponding to R1 etc)
> >
> > Then we sent some packets - and the test was entirely successful.
> >
> > What this effectively means is that if two providers agree to share the SID 
> > mappings - it is possible to steer across one network, out over an open 
> > path, and across a remote network.  Obviously this relies on the fact that 
> > EH's aren't being dropped by intermediate providers, but this isn't 
> > something we're seeing.
> >
> > Combine this with the BGP signaling draft - and the SID's can then be 
> > signaled between the providers - work still going on with regards to this 
> > for testing purposes.  Just as a note - there would be no requirement to 
> > share the full SID mapping or topologies when doing this with BGP - the 
> > requirement would be only to share the relevant SID's necessary for the 
> > steering.
> >
> > I can say from our side - with various other providers - this is something 
> > that we see *immense* use case for - for a whole host of reasons.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
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